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| Apr-09-11 | | Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song: "Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe." |
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Apr-09-11
 | | FSR: This is the ninth pun I submitted that CG has used, all since December 14. Later in the same year as this game, Karpov improved with 13...b5!, winning crushingly in Seirawan vs Karpov, 1982. |
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| Apr-09-11 | | Gilmoy: <slowrobot: [Seirawan's] talk of his material advantage is confusing to me, because ... he's only up a pawn after he sacrifices the exchange ...> He had B+N vs. R, and Black's d5-pawn is weak. So Black can't just defend, and must seek complications somewhere. <... and material is dead even after black's pawn capture on b2.> But Black paid a heavy strategic price for it: he didn't have the tempi to steal a pawn <and> dodge the Nd4-Nc6 tour. Then b2 was just a slo-mo trade for a7, so he's still down a pawn, his Rs are split, his back rank is messed up, and White's a-pawn looms as an even bigger problem. Note how White's Bf3 hasn't wasted a single tempo through all this. When White shifts to K-side, Black is left stranded, with all his pieces just awful: the Qa7 doesn't even have a spite check. |
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| Apr-09-11 | | Everett: <FSR> Yes, that's true, but Seirawan helped by going wrong immediately in that game with 14.Qa5, where 14.Qd1 would keep white with a good game. |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Domdaniel: <FSR> Yes, Karpov had a lethal improvement ready when Seirawan played the same line a few months later. It was in a tournament filmed by the BBC, where the players recorded their thoughts and ideas straight after the game, as if it was live commentary. Seirawan's stream-of-consciousness was brilliant - the best bit of chess TV I've seen, and among the best TV of any kind. Something like ... "I don't believe this, he's playing the same line I beat him with ... but I've been through this so many times, showing it off ... how could anything go wrong? I'm going to beat Karpov again. Uh-oh, he varied with ...b5. But it must be a bluff. I just carry on, and oh no. No no no. I'm lost. It's so hot in here. Why did I wear a tie?" A great performer, Yasser. And not just on the chessboard. |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Check It Out: Yasser's visiting the local chess club here in Seattle tomorrow for a lecture and book signing. Think I'll go <check it out>. |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Penguincw: < Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song: "Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe." >
Well thanks for telling me. |
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Apr-09-11
 | | maxi: The opening of this game confuses me in the peculiar way Karpov screws up the opening. Still at move 13 Karpov was fine: 13.♕a4! ♗b7 14.♖e3 ♕g4+ and Black is perhaps even better. Then Karpov sacrifices a piece for a Pawn, but has nothing to show for it. Seirawan's 20.♗f3 is the safest move, but it is one of several good ones; he is in no danger. And then his Kingside attack is very elegant. But, what did Karpov miss?? Why the sacrifice? Does anybody know? |
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| Apr-09-11 | | James Bowman: <maxi> I'm with you Karpov either drops a piece or plays a dubious sacrafice, other than that Yasser's play was good if not exceptional IMHO. Interesting game but not worthy of being added to a game collection. |
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| Apr-09-11 | | ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White? |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White?>
click for larger view32.Qe8, threatening 33.Qh8#. Aside from spite checks Black's only defense is 32...g5, but then 33.Be4+ Rg6 34.Qxg6# finishes him off. |
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| Apr-09-11 | | sergeidave: Why did Karpov drop that Knight??
GM Seirawan coming to our chess club in Seattle, tomorrow!!! Yes! |
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| Apr-09-11 | | Jim Bartle: Apparently Karpov hadn't seen 20. Bf3, protecting the weak pawn on e2. At least that's what Seirawan thought. |
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| Apr-09-11 | | WhiteRook48: Seirawan is a good player... he also beat Kasparov, but only because Kasparov was trying too hard to win |
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| May-31-11 | | Lil Swine: I remember finding this game in "Winning Chess Brilliancies" by Yasser Seirawan, who happened to be playing the game, hehe. |
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| Oct-07-11 | | AnalyzeThis: <ConLaMismaMano: This was the first tournament victory by an American over a reigning world champion since Dake defeated Alexander Alekhine at Pasadena in 1932.> Almost as interesting as Reshevsky's match victory over Botvinnik in 1955. |
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| Oct-07-11 | | Old King Cole: With white's threat of Qg8 mate, after 31 ... h5, look at the white rook's Ra8, "mating" the queen who's standing around like a king. |
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| Nov-27-13 | | whiteshark: Here's an opposing point of view:
"... Indeed, when <Karpov> lost one game through faulty play in the opening against <Yasser Seirawan> at the London tournament in 1982, the champion had a <perfectly reasonable excuse for his defeat: <Geller had gone shopping that morning and had been unavailable to prepare Karpov properly for the game." <>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e... RIP, Yefim Petrovich Geller
(You can't take it with you when you go.) |
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Nov-27-13
 | | perfidious: <whiteshark>: Fool that I am, I always figured it was the sea air! Oops--wrong great player--that was Tarrasch. |
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| Nov-27-13 | | john barleycorn: Geller was such a powerhouse regarding theory. Remember this one Spassky vs Pilnik, 1955 And his support for Spassky who played along Geller's recommendation on game 4 in 1972 (13....a5) only to forget everything completely (according to Karpov) Geller was a theoretician as he could come up with substantiated recommendations BEFORE actual play. |
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| Dec-01-13 | | Amadori: Hey all, I'm impressed how the kibitzing here goes on for years. Does anyone know why black didn't play 19...Qb4+ ? White either loses the pawn on b2 or his castling privilege. |
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| Dec-01-13 | | perfessor: My guess is that White plays Kf1, followed by Bf3 and Kg2, with play similar to the game. The loss of castling is not really significant. |
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| Dec-01-13 | | Jim Bartle: If I remember correctly, Seirawan said Karpov still expected to capture the e2 pawn after Rc8c2. |
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| Dec-01-13 | | Amadori: Thanks. Sounds reasonable, with all the pressure on e2. Not sure about the castling though. Would have cost white a tempo or two in bringing his rook out, which is how the play continued. |
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| Dec-28-19 | | RookFile: Before computers were king. Now you can play a game, let the computer analyze it, and you'd be ready for all the new wrinkles. |
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sac: 18.Nxd4