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|Apr-09-11|| ||Penguincw: Somehow,I don't get the pun.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song:|
"Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe."
|Apr-09-11|| ||FSR: This is the ninth pun I submitted that CG has used, all since December 14. Later in the same year as this game, Karpov improved with 13...b5!, winning crushingly in Seirawan vs Karpov, 1982.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Gilmoy: <slowrobot: [Seirawan's] talk of his material advantage is confusing to me, because ... he's only up a pawn after he sacrifices the exchange ...> He had B+N vs. R, and Black's d5-pawn is weak. So Black can't just defend, and must seek complications somewhere.|
<... and material is dead even after black's pawn capture on b2.> But Black paid a heavy strategic price for it: he didn't have the tempi to steal a pawn <and> dodge the Nd4-Nc6 tour. Then b2 was just a slo-mo trade for a7, so he's still down a pawn, his Rs are split, his back rank is messed up, and White's a-pawn looms as an even bigger problem. Note how White's Bf3 hasn't wasted a single tempo through all this.
When White shifts to K-side, Black is left stranded, with all his pieces just awful: the Qa7 doesn't even have a spite check.
|Apr-09-11|| ||Everett: <FSR> Yes, that's true, but Seirawan helped by going wrong immediately in that game with 14.Qa5, where 14.Qd1 would keep white with a good game.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Domdaniel: <FSR> Yes, Karpov had a lethal improvement ready when Seirawan played the same line a few months later. It was in a tournament filmed by the BBC, where the players recorded their thoughts and ideas straight after the game, as if it was live commentary.|
Seirawan's stream-of-consciousness was brilliant - the best bit of chess TV I've seen, and among the best TV of any kind.
Something like ... "I don't believe this, he's playing the same line I beat him with ... but I've been through this so many times, showing it off ... how could anything go wrong? I'm going to beat Karpov again. Uh-oh, he varied with ...b5. But it must be a bluff. I just carry on, and oh no. No no no. I'm lost. It's so hot in here. Why did I wear a tie?"
A great performer, Yasser. And not just on the chessboard.
|Apr-09-11|| ||Check It Out: Yasser's visiting the local chess club here in Seattle tomorrow for a lecture and book signing. Think I'll go <check it out>.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Penguincw: < Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song:|
"Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe." >
Well thanks for telling me.
|Apr-09-11|| ||maxi: The opening of this game confuses me in the peculiar way Karpov screws up the opening. Still at move 13 Karpov was fine: 13.♕a4! ♗b7 14.♖e3 ♕g4+ and Black is perhaps even better. Then Karpov sacrifices a piece for a Pawn, but has nothing to show for it. Seirawan's 20.♗f3 is the safest move, but it is one of several good ones; he is in no danger. And then his Kingside attack is very elegant. But, what did Karpov miss?? Why the sacrifice? Does anybody know?|
|Apr-09-11|| ||James Bowman: <maxi> I'm with you Karpov either drops a piece or plays a dubious sacrafice, other than that Yasser's play was good if not exceptional IMHO.|
Interesting game but not worthy of being added to a game collection.
|Apr-09-11|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White?|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White?>|
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32.Qe8, threatening 33.Qh8#. Aside from spite checks Black's only defense is 32...g5, but then 33.Be4+ Rg6 34.Qxg6# finishes him off.
|Apr-09-11|| ||sergeidave: Why did Karpov drop that Knight??
GM Seirawan coming to our chess club in Seattle, tomorrow!!! Yes!
|Apr-09-11|| ||Jim Bartle: Apparently Karpov hadn't seen 20. Bf3, protecting the weak pawn on e2. At least that's what Seirawan thought.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||WhiteRook48: Seirawan is a good player... he also beat Kasparov, but only because Kasparov was trying too hard to win|
|May-31-11|| ||Lil Swine: I remember finding this game in "Winning Chess Brilliancies" by Yasser Seirawan, who happened to be playing the game, hehe.|
|Oct-07-11|| ||AnalyzeThis: <ConLaMismaMano: This was the first tournament victory by an American over a reigning world champion since Dake defeated Alexander Alekhine at Pasadena in 1932.>|
Almost as interesting as Reshevsky's match victory over Botvinnik in 1955.
|Oct-07-11|| ||Old King Cole: With white's threat of Qg8 mate, after 31 ... h5, look at the white rook's Ra8, "mating" the queen who's standing around like a king.|
|Nov-27-13|| ||whiteshark: Here's an opposing point of view:
"... Indeed, when <Karpov> lost one game through faulty play in the opening against <Yasser Seirawan> at the London tournament in 1982, the champion had a <perfectly reasonable excuse for his defeat:
<Geller had gone shopping that morning and had been unavailable to prepare Karpov properly for the game." <>>>
RIP, Yefim Petrovich Geller
(You can't take it with you when you go.)
|Nov-27-13|| ||perfidious: <whiteshark>: Fool that I am, I always figured it was the sea air!|
Oops--wrong great player--that was Tarrasch.
|Nov-27-13|| ||john barleycorn: Geller was such a powerhouse regarding theory. Remember this one Spassky vs Pilnik, 1955|
And his support for Spassky who played along Geller's recommendation on game 4 in 1972 (13....a5) only to forget everything completely (according to Karpov)
Geller was a theoretician as he could come up with substantiated recommendations BEFORE actual play.
|Dec-01-13|| ||Amadori: Hey all, I'm impressed how the kibitzing here goes on for years.|
Does anyone know why black didn't play 19...Qb4+ ? White either loses the pawn on b2 or his castling privilege.
|Dec-01-13|| ||perfessor: My guess is that White plays Kf1, followed by Bf3 and Kg2, with play similar to the game. The loss of castling is not really significant.|
|Dec-01-13|| ||Jim Bartle: If I remember correctly, Seirawan said Karpov still expected to capture the e2 pawn after Rc8c2.|
|Dec-01-13|| ||Amadori: Thanks. Sounds reasonable, with all the pressure on e2. Not sure about the castling though. Would have cost white a tempo or two in bringing his rook out, which is how the play continued.|
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