chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Anatoly Karpov vs Yasser Seirawan
Mar del Plata (1982), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 1, Feb-08
French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation General (C16)  ·  1/2-1/2

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 38 more Karpov/Seirawan games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: To flip the board (so black is on the bottom) press the "I" key on your keyboard.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
Feb-10-07  Brown: Seirawan claims a winning advantage with 44...Qe8 from Winning Chess Strategies, the chapter highlighting minor piece play. Clearly his knight is stronger than white's bishop.
Feb-10-11  KingG: According to Seirawan, Bent Larsen told him after the game that the plan of 26...a5, 27...Ka6, 28...Rb8, 29...b5, 30...Rxb5, 31...Rfb8, followed by trading rooks on the b-file and pushing the a-pawn was easily winning.

Seirawan also claims many further wins in later on in the game, such as 32...cxd4 33.cxd4 Qe8;

37...Qh5+ 38.Qf3 Qxf3+ 39.Kxf3 Nd2+ 40.Ke2 Ne4 (he says he saw this variation, but wanted to win with a mating attack);

47...Ne3 48.Kxe3 Qc6 49.Rf1 Qxc3+ 50.Ke2 Qxc2+ 51.Ke1 Qc3+ 52.Ke2 Rh3 53.Rd1 Qf3+ 54.Ke1 Rh2(he saw all this during his adjournment analysis but missed this last move, instead thinking he only had perpetual after 54...Rh1+) 55.Rd2 Rh1+ 56.Bg1 Qe3+.

There were wins at several other points as well. It's pretty unbelievable that Karpov managed to escape this game with a draw considering the number of wins Black had in this game.

Sep-10-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: "How did you not win?"

- GM Anatoly Karpov (whispered to GM Yasser Seirawan after the game)

Source: Chess Life 2012 September

May-07-15  ToTheDeath: What a prick thing to say.

"I don't know Anatoly, maybe I was playing one of the best players ever in his prime? Of course in a fight you'd only last one second against me, you milktoast Soviet lackey snake bastard you!"

OK, Yasser probably wouldn't say that to Karpov, but he should have.

May-07-15  RookFile: Don't think that Karpov meant anything unkind by it.
May-07-15  ToTheDeath: I wouldn't be so sure. This was during the cold war and Seirawan was US champion and a strong contender for the world title. Karpov could easily be rubbing it in and trying to put a future rival in his place. Yasser was also close friends with the hated Korchnoi.
Sep-11-17  Howard: Seirawan claims that after his 20...c6!! (he gives two exclaims to this move in his book Chess Duels) his position was completely won because, according to him, Karpov had no counterplay at all. On top of that, he admits that an engine gives Karpov a "slight plus" !

Perhaps someone could shed some light on this---why couldn't Karpov, for instance, have just retreated his queen from h6 rather than leave it on h6 for so long?

Was Karpov's position really that bad after 20 moves?! I don't think so at all.

Sep-11-17  RookFile: If I had to guess, he's saying that the pretty f6 bishop is actually worthless in this fairly closed position, and that over time, the knight is going to dominate. Whether that is actually true, I don't know. Karpov seemed to give priority to giving that bishop something to do, even at the expnense of his queen's position.
Sep-12-17  SChesshevsky: I'm not sure 20...c6 is completely winning but Black likely has the better outlook.

White's dark square pressure on the king side looks impressive but doesn't seem to offer much and is very immobile.

Karpov's 22. h3 and 23. Rd3 seems an admission that there's not much potential in a king side attack.

The problem for Black is how to open the queen side without exposing the king. Black's pieces should be able to get over and position themselves quicker and better as long as there's not a lot of tempo gaining threats by White.

In an earlier post it mentions Bent Larsen's queen side idea that apparently is winning by move 40.

Strangely Karpov, one of the best positional players ever, could get into some really awful positions when off form or lose the thread of a game.

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Ideas In The French Defense
by oao2102
strategy masterpieces
by yahooman
C16
from Seirawan! by larrewl
draws
by obrit
Ch. 7 Anatoly Karpov
from Chess Duels by Seirawan by hms123
Game 27
from Chess Duels (Seirawan) by Qindarka
Mar del Plata 1982
by Tabanus


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us


Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC