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Vladimir Kramnik vs Anatoly Karpov
Dos Hermanas (1997), Dos Hermanas ESP, rd 3, Apr-04
English Opening: Anglo-Indian Defense. Nimzo-English Opening (E32)  ·  1-0



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Jun-25-05  Everett: Kramnik, when at his best is like a combo between the best of Karpov and Smyslov. His white openings, when he was most successful, start with Nf3, and can be more hypermodern like Smyslov's games, less classical.
Oct-13-05  Poisonpawns: This is one of Kramniks best games It is amazing how all of Karpov`s pieces are on the bank rank by move 30 in an otherwise quiet looking position.
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  plang: This is a really pretty endgame. Kramnik and Karpov are both great endgame players. Kramink's style in the endgame is mor tactical. After Karpov makes an uncharacteristic positional error 17..c6 weakening his b6 pawn Kramnik liquidates the weakness with 27 c5 opening the position for the two bishops. I doubt that Karpov would have handled the position this way. In fact, he criticized 27 c5 after the game. Kramink's tactics starting with 31 Ba4 are really nice.
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  plang: By the way, the game should be under E32. It trasposes into the classical Nimzo Indian after 10 d4.
Sep-09-06  slomarko: i dissagree with the fact that karpov and kramnik are both great endgame players. for example kramnik failed to convert endings with clear advantage in matches against kasparov and leko.
Sep-10-06  positionalgenius: <slomarko>what evidence do you have? Everyone loses once in a while.And Leko is a great player.Not to mention the greatest,Kasparov.
Feb-01-07  Poisonpawns: Witness here Kramniks immortal masterpiece if you are not familiar with it already.This is as beautiful as any "attack" by Tal or Kasparov.If One cannot appreciate the beauty and greatness in this mans style i feel bad for you.These type of Players dont come around often
Jun-17-07  Atking: <Poisonpawns:> Don't care much to slomarko's note. I'm not sure he is even serious. The point of 17. ...c6? was probably 19. ...Nd2 but 20.Qb4! refutes. Therefore 17. ...Ra7 with Q8-a8 was surely playable. I agree the way in which Kramnik handles this game is marvelous. Simple move like Capablanca.
Jun-17-07  Karpova: <Atking: Simple move like Capablanca.> True, looks like a Capablanca game - and he was playing none other than Karpov (who studied chess with Capablanca's game collection first. He would replay the games and before making a move think about it and wonder would he would play in the given position. And then see what Capablanca played)!
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  Richard Taylor: It was as if Karpov was playing White. In it's own way a beautiful game. When I try to play this logical strategical stuff my opponents always find some annoying tactic or I blunder at the critical moment...
Nov-25-07  Red October: <When I try to play this logical strategical stuff my opponents always find some annoying tactic or I blunder at the critical moment...> tell me about it earlier today I reduced my opponent to total passivity took away all key squares .. just about to conclude it with an attacking combination against his King when I overlooked a Knight fork and lost my Queen...geez
Nov-25-07  whiteshark: Before black played 17...c6? he had an ideal position (closed center, open a-file, well placed minor pieces...) with no weakness

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So what is the best black move in this position ??

Nov-25-07  acirce: <whiteshark> Kramnik gives 17..Qd8 planning ..Ra7 and ..Qa8, "when it is not so easy for White to get rid of the troublesome knight on e4." He suggested that perhaps Karpov thought this plan too slow, but agrees that 17..c6 was just bad.
Apr-26-15  whiteshark: Belated thanks, <acirce>!
Dec-02-17  Saniyat24: Aesthetically pleasing and strategically beautiful game by Kramnik....Karpov really had no chance in this game...!
Sep-05-20  Justin796: For all the beauty karpov could equalize with knight d5 on move 30...hmm
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  beatgiant: <Justin796>
Really? On 30...Nd5 31. Rd1, does Black have anything better than giving up a pawn?
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  perfidious: By <slomarko>'s definition, no-one would be great in the endgame--pure bollocks. All his slagging of Kramnik manages to accomplish is to point up how very difficult it is for even elite GMs to play flawlessly.
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  moronovich: <slomarko: i dissagree with the fact that karpov and kramnik are both great endgame players. for example kramnik failed to convert endings with clear advantage in matches against kasparov and leko.>

From a bygone era.

Sep-06-20  Granny O Doul: As a rule, it is healthier to agree with facts than to disagree.
Sep-06-20  SChesshevsky: Irritating. That's what this opening and getting to this position has to feel like for black. After 8. Bb2:

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Not that it's a knockout for White but his queenside expansion has to be a pain. And the Qc3-Bb2 annoyingly always has to be kept in mind. Then the construct seems to be something like a Nimzo-Indian or Queens Indian but not quite either. And going over some of the games in the cg database, it always feels like white's better. Maybe not by much but the one pushing the agenda.

Appears Korchnoi had this opening in mind. getting it twice in this 1982 tournament. Here Roman D. goes for a quick block of the a1 diagonal and exchange of pieces and successfully defends Korchnoi kside attempts.

Korchnoi vs Dzindzichashvili, 1982

Here Karpov faces it prior. Gets a quick ...c5 in and blocks the a1 diagonal with ...f6 when allowed. Seems black's OK but white's never pressured and Karpov gets a perpetual.

Illescas Cordoba vs Karpov, 1993

Somewhat related is this short game with an irritating, then powerful Qc3-Bb2:

Karpov vs Korchnoi, 2008

Sep-06-20  erniecohen: Black looks fine after 30...♘d5
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  perfidious: As <beatgiant> noted, how does Black meet the simple 31.Rd1 in response?
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  kingscrusher: It seems 30.e5 is an inaccuracy - instead Ba4 with clear advantage because of Bishop pair

Vladimir Kramnik - Anatoly Karpov 1-0 3.0, Dos Hermanas 1997

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Analysis by Stockfish 15 - 3 threads max:

1. ± (0.98): 30...Ke7 31.Bb5 Bd7 32.Bc4 Bc8 33.Nd3 Ne8 34.Nb4 Bb7 35.Bb5 Nd6 36.Bf1 Ne8 37.Bxg7 Bxe4 38.Bh6 Bg6 39.Be3 Nd7 40.Rd1 Nc7 41.Nc6+ Ke8 42.Na7 White is better

(Gavriel, 05.04.2023)

One amazingly vivid concept here witnessed on analysis is the bishop pair looking impressively centralised in some variations e.g this position in one of my analysis variations:

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And then the bishop pair really does damage even with absolute best play from black.

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  perfidious: <SC....And the Qc3-Bb2 annoyingly always has to be kept in mind. Then the construct seems to be something like a Nimzo-Indian or Queens Indian but not quite either....>

This game actually transposes to a Qc2 Nimzo-Indian.

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