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| Feb-10-17 | | Crapablanca: Why not 24. . . .Qe8 25. Ng4 Qf8 |
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| Feb-10-17 | | Nerwal: <Why not 24. . . .Qe8 25. Ng4 Qf8> 26. ♘f6+ and 27. ♕e5. |
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| Feb-10-17 | | TransfiniteCardinal: Just joined this <intimidatingly intelligent> site, I've been lurking here for years. |
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Feb-10-17
 | | perfidious: <TransfiniteCardinal>, welcome aboard! |
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Feb-10-17
 | | keypusher: I was just getting started in chess back when this was played...it made quite an impression on me, because I hadn't seen Petrosian smothered like this, apart from Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971. Really, I didn't understand the game at all, and I've lost quite a few times to strong positional players by getting my queenside paralyzed as Petrosian did here. Looks like there has been some good kibitzing on this page, I'll have to work through it. |
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| Feb-10-17 | | MelvinDoucet: DWINS wrote: <"There is nothing else, since it is no longer possible to buy off the opponent with a pawn sacrifice: 20...f6 21.♘c4 ♗d7 22.♘xb6 axb6 23.♕xb6 ♗c6 24.♗b5! ♗xb5 25.♕xb5 with a straightforward win." However, instead of an exclamation point, 24.♗b5 deserves a question mark. Black would respond with 24...♕b4! forcing White to grab a perpetual by 25.♖xc6 bxc6 26.♕xc6 ♖ac8 27.♕a6 ♖a8 28.♕c6 ♖ac8. All other continuations leave Black with an advantage.> Someone beat me to it.. by 5 years! :) Kasparov was quick to give his own moves exclams, it seems, but in his defense ♕b4 is an easy move to miss especially when you're not running the game through an engine. |
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| Feb-10-17 | | sachman19: why Bogus Indian? |
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| Feb-10-17 | | morfishine: <sachman19: why Bogus Indian?> Because its another irrelevant game-title that serves only one purpose: leave people perplexed, shaking their heads more accurate: Bogus game title
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| Feb-10-17 | | WorstPlayerEver: Pun is not nice to Bogoljubow, but hey... rats will be rats. |
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| Mar-27-17 | | FredGambit: Quick note: In an otherwise fine book (Chess: The Art of Logical Thinking), GM Neil McDonald placed this game in a chapter called "Strategy Under The Microscope: 1 d4 d5" Now, McDonald could blast me off the board in his sleep, but I'm pretty sure the Bogo-Indian isn't a 1 d4 d5 opening. But don't let that scare you off, it's quite a good book. |
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| Mar-27-17 | | Nerwal: <Now, McDonald could blast me off the board in his sleep, but I'm pretty sure the Bogo-Indian isn't a 1 d4 d5 opening.> There are many transpositions possible in the Catalan and Bogo-indian (like here 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. ♘f3 ♘f6 4. g3 ♗b4+ 5. ♗d2 ♗xd2+ 6. ♕xd2 0-0 7. ♗g2 ♕e7). The most important feature is that the pawn eventually stands at d5 and give later one of the typical Open Catalan structures (g3 fianchetto, black pawn at e6, c and d pawns exchanged). |
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| Feb-17-18 | | tgyuid: put the donkey on e4, Sir |
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| Feb-17-18 | | tgyuid: just put the donkey on e4, Sir |
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| Feb-17-18 | | tgyuid: you should have put the donkey on e4, Sir |
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| Feb-17-18 | | iking: <tgyuid: put the donkey on e4, Sir> ... the donkey wont help .. the rook on d8 is hanging after the queen exchange. |
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Feb-18-18
 | | AylerKupp: I'm sorry, but I every time I see a Bogo-Indian with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Bb4+ 4.Bd2 I think about this game: L Palau vs S Kalabar, 1927. |
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| Feb-21-18 | | Petrosianic: Kasparov's notes make no mention of it at all, but it looks like where Black starts to go wrong is with 12...Qe7. In such a wide open position, Black can't afford to lose even a single tempo. Black needed to play something like an immediate Rd8, followed by Bd7 to mobilize the Queenside. It's important to play Rd8 with gain of time first, though, as if a White knight goes to e5, Black will probably want to play Be8 without shutting in his rook. After all that, the game is still relatively equal. |
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| Feb-21-18 | | Petrosianic: Looking up, Bezlitosci also named Qe7 as Black's decisive mistake 6 years ago, but he didn't really explain why, or say what Black should have done instead. He only showed how White won after that move. |
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| Feb-21-18 | | Big Pawn: Move 21, <Insignificant moves such as this demonstrate to the opponent just how helpless he is. - Kasparov> A great comment! |
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| Feb-21-18 | | Big Pawn: Kasparov sounded like Nimzowitsch in his many comments about preventative moves, or as Nimzo would say, prophylactic moves. I think Nimzowitsch would have liked 19.Bf1. |
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Nov-08-20
 | | HeMateMe: I think Chess Life had voted this game one of the ten best of the year. Petrosian is just strangled. |
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| Nov-09-20 | | SChesshevsky: Petrosian goes down without ever getting his Queen's Bishop off c8. Probably has to be highly unusual for him. It's not very common for that B to be seen undeveloped for most or all a loss. But I've seen it enough with some big name games that I tend to notice it. Probably more rare is winning when that Bishop goes undeveloped. Interesting how computer Hydra doesn't seem to need it in this game until putting on the finishing touches. Hydra vs Adams, 2005 |
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| Nov-10-20 | | sakredkow: <Petrosian goes down without ever getting his Queen's Bishop off c8. Probably has to be highly unusual for him.> FWIW in addition to the c8 B, black's QRook and four pawns never move from their initial squares. In contrast all of white's pieces have been mobile and only two of his pawns are still on original squares. |
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Nov-10-20
| | perfidious: In which respect this game resembles the Classical QGD, often seen at even top level in the first part of the 20th century, before more enterprising Black players took up other lines in the Declined or other defences altogether. |
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Dec-17-22
 | | saffuna: In his videos Daniel King emphasizes the importance of the rooks connected that it's become a running joke. Here it looks like black (a former world champion, renowned for his positional understanding) appears to lose because his rooks are not connected, and the a8 rook is useless in defending the back rank. |
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