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Nigel Short vs Garry Kasparov
"The Empire Strikes Back" (game of the day Nov-19-2017)
Brussels OHRA-A (1986), Brussels BEL, rd 4, Dec-15
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. English Attack (B80)  ·  1-0

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Aug-07-17  Albion 1959: Not even Kasparov's box of tricks could get him out of this one. Not sure why GK played 38.Nf8? instead of Kh7, which to me was the obvious and reflex response. It is never good to willingly submit to a pin unless it is a forced move:
Nov-19-17
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  offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <dinulipatti: Was this game played at a normal time limit?> What is normal?>

Same as <typical>.

Nov-19-17
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  offramp: Short's only win against Kasparov before their 1993 match. It may have made him believe that he could wrest the title from the mighty Azeri (Kasparov) by using sharp Sicilian lines. I am glad he did. No one was going to beat the wily Baku-oid (Kasparov) in 1993 so Short did well to go down in a blaze of lycopodium (stage fire).
Nov-19-17  goodevans: <JASAHA: ... He [Short] thought 32 Rc1 was a blunderish but it freed up his position.>

Indeed 32.Rc1 was a brave decision as it effectively sac'd the Ba7. Short wasn't to know that Kasparov would return the piece so quickly.

Kasparov could, probably should, have held onto the piece with <35...Nf8>. After <36.Nd5 Rh7 37.Ne7+ Kh8 38.Qd8 Qa8> white's initiative evaporates and whilst he can win another pawn with <39.Qxa8 Bxa8 40.Rxe5> that probably isn't sufficient compensation for the sac'd piece.

Nov-19-17  ColeTrane: The quote "Luke I am your father" never happened... The wife in "American Gothic" by Grant Wood is no longer facing the viewer straight on...and monopoly man never had a monocle....some of us live in an alternate reality and the larger part of the earths population who is NOT explains this by calling it the Mandela Effect...
Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.13 (38 ply) 1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 cxd4 5.exd5 Qxd5 6.Bc4 Qd6 7.O-O Nf6 8.Nb3 Nc6 9.Re1 Bd7 10.Bg5 Be7 11.Nbxd4 O-O 12.Nxc6 Bxc6 13.Ne5 Bd5 14.Bxd5 Nxd5 15.Bxe7 Qxe7 16.Qe2 Rfd8 17.c3 Qc7 18.Rad1 Rac8 19.Ra1 Ne7 20.Rad1 h6 21.Rxd8+ Rxd8

2) +0.21 (37 ply) 1...c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Bb5 e5 5.d3 d6 6.Bc4 Be7 7.O-O Be6 8.Re1 O-O 9.h3 Nd7 10.a4 Nb6 11.Ba2 Nb4 12.Bxe6 fxe6 13.a5 Nd7 14.Ne2 Qe8 15.c3 Qg6 16.Ng3 Nc6 17.Be3 Qf7 18.Qb3 Rab8 19.Qc2 h6 20.Bd2 Qg6

3) +0.28 (37 ply) 1...e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.d3 Bc5 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.O-O Qd6 8.Nbd2 Be6 9.h3 O-O 10.Ng5 Rfd8 11.Nxe6 Qxe6 12.Qf3 b5 13.Nb3 Nd7 14.Rd1 Be7 15.Bd2 c5 16.Na5 Rab8 17.b3 Qg6 18.a4 Bg5 19.Bxg5 Qxg5 20.g3 Qe7 21.axb5

2.5 hour analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.10 (34 ply) 2...Nc6 3.Bb5 e6 4.O-O Nge7 5.Ba4 g6 6.c3 Bg7 7.d4 cxd4 8.cxd4 O-O 9.Nc3 d5 10.e5 Bd7 11.Bf4 h6 12.Bc2 Nb4 13.Bb1 Rc8 14.a3 Nbc6 15.Bd2 Na5 16.Ne2 Nc4 17.Bc3 Bc6 18.b3 Nb6 19.Ba5 Qd7 20.h3

2) +0.16 (34 ply) 2...d6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5+ Bd7 5.Bxd7+ Qxd7 6.O-O Nc6 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 g6 9.Bg5 Bg7 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.b3 h6 12.Be3 Qc7 13.Qd2 Ng4 14.Bd4 e5 15.Be3 O-O 16.Rad1 Nxe3 17.Qxe3 Rfd8 18.Rfe1 Rab8 19.Qe2 Rd7 20.h3 Rdd8 21.a3

3) +0.27 (34 ply) 2...g6 3.c3

4) +0.20 (33 ply) 2...e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.Be2 Nc6 5.d4 cxd4 6.Nxd4 Qc7 7.Be3 Nf6 8.a3 Be7 9.f4 O-O 10.Qd2 d5 11.e5 Nd7 12.O-O Nxd4 13.Bxd4 Bc5 14.Rad1 b6 15.g3 Bb7 16.Rfe1 Bxd4+ 17.Qxd4 Rac8 18.Bf3 a5 19.Qd2 Nc5 20.Kg2

5) +0.22 (33 ply) 2...a6 3.c3 d5 4.exd5 Qxd5 5.d4 Nf6 6.Be3 cxd4 7.cxd4 e6 8.Bd3 Nc6 9.Nc3 Qd8 10.Rc1 h6 11.O-O Bd6 12.a3 Bc7 13.Re1 O-O 14.h3 Re8 15.Qb3 Bd7 16.d5 Ne5 17.Nxe5 Bxe5 18.Qxb7 Bxc3 19.bxc3 Nxd5

6) +0.22 (33 ply) 2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.c3 cxd4 8.Nxd4 d6 9.Bb5 Bd7 10.Nf3 a6 11.Ba4 Nxe5 12.Bxd7+ Qxd7 13.Qxd5 Nxf3+ 14.Qxf3 Be7 15.Be3 O-O 16.O-O Bf6 17.Rfd1 Qb5 18.Rab1 Rad8 19.Re1 Rde8 20.Red1 Be5

1.5 hour analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.34 (32 ply) 6.g3 e5 7.Nde2 Be7 8.Bg2 Nc6 9.O-O O-O 10.Be3 b5 11.Qd2 Ng4 12.Nd5 Nxe3 13.Nxe3 Be6 14.Nc3 Bg5 15.f4 exf4 16.gxf4 Bh4 17.Rad1 Qb6 18.Kh1 Rfe8 19.a3 Ne7 20.f5 Bc4 21.Nxc4 bxc4 22.Qxd6 Qxb2

2) +0.17 (32 ply) 6.f3

3) +0.16 (32 ply) 6.Be2 e5 7.Nb3 Be7 8.O-O O-O 9.Be3 Be6 10.Qd3 Nc6 11.a3 d5 12.exd5 Nxd5 13.Nxd5 Qxd5 14.Qxd5 Bxd5 15.Rfd1 Be4 16.Nc5 Bxc5 17.Bxc5 Rfd8 18.Bb6 Rxd1+ 19.Rxd1 Nd4 20.Bxd4 exd4 21.f4 Bxc2 22.Rxd4

4) +0.16 (32 ply) 6.Nb3 g6 7.Be2 Bg7 8.Bg5 O-O 9.O-O Nc6 10.f4 h6 11.Bh4 Be6 12.Bf2 Rc8 13.Be3 Qd7 14.h3 b5 15.a3 Qb7 16.Rb1 Rcd8 17.Qd2 Bc4 18.Qe1 Bxe2 19.Qxe2 Nd7 20.f5 g5 21.Rbd1 Bxc3 22.bxc3

5) +0.08 (32 ply) 6.h3 e5 7.Nb3 Be6 8.f4 g6 9.Qf3 d5 10.Bd3 dxe4 11.Nxe4 Nxe4 12.Bxe4 f5 13.Bxb7 Ra7 14.Be3 e4 15.Bxe4 fxe4 16.Qxe4 Re7 17.Bc5 Kf7 18.Bxe7 Bxe7 19.O-O Re8 20.Rad1 Qb6+ 21.Qd4 Nd7 22.Qf2 Qxf2+ 23.Kxf2 Nb6 24.Nd4 Bxa2 25.Rfe1 Bd5 26.b3 Bc5 27.Rxe8 Kxe8

6) +0.08 (32 ply) 6.Be3 e5 7.Nb3 Be7 8.h3 Be6 9.f4 exf4 10.Bxf4 d5 11.e5 Nfd7 12.Nxd5 Bh4+ 13.g3 g5 14.Nf6+ Nxf6 15.gxh4 gxf4 16.Qxd8+ Kxd8 17.exf6 Nd7 18.Bd3 Nxf6 19.Rf1 Nd5 20.Be4 Kc7 21.Bxd5 Bxd5 22.O-O-O Rad8 23.Rxf4 Rhe8 24.Nd4 Re4 25.Rxe4

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.15 (33 ply) 6...e5 7.Nf3 Be7 8.Bc4 O-O 9.O-O Be6 10.Bb3 Nc6 11.Bg5 Na5 12.Bxf6 Bxf6 13.Nd5 Be7 14.Nxe7+ Qxe7 15.Bxe6 fxe6 16.Re1 Nc6 17.Qd3 Rad8 18.Rad1 Qf6 19.Qe3 d5 20.a3 h6 21.Qe2 d4 22.Qd3 Rc8 23.h3 Rcd8

2) +0.23 (33 ply) 6...e6 7.a3

3) +0.30 (33 ply) 6...Nc6 7.Be2 e5 8.Nxc6 bxc6 9.f4 Qa5 10.O-O Be7 11.Qd2 Rb8 12.b3 Qc7 13.Qe1 O-O 14.Kh1 h6 15.Qg3 Kh8 16.Rad1 Qa5 17.Qe1 Ng4 18.Bd2 Qc5 19.Bc4 Be6 20.Na4 Qa3 21.Bxe6 fxe6 22.Qe2 Nf6 23.Qc4 d5 24.Qxc6 Nxe4

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.30 (34 ply) 7.Be2

2) +0.20 (34 ply) 7.a3 Be7 8.f3 O-O 9.Qd2 d5 10.e5 Nfd7 11.f4 Nc6 12.Qf2 Nxd4 13.Bxd4 b6 14.Bd3 Nc5 15.Be2 Bb7 16.O-O Qc7 17.Rad1 b5 18.Qe3 Ne4 19.Nxe4 dxe4 20.c3 Rac8 21.Rfe1 Bd5 22.a4 Qb7 23.axb5 axb5 24.g3

3) =0.00 (33 ply) 7.Qf3 Nbd7 8.a3 Qc7 9.Qg3 b5 10.f3 Bb7 11.Bd3 g6 12.O-O Rc8 13.Qh4 Bg7 14.Ndxb5 axb5 15.Nxb5 Qc6 16.Na7 Qc7 17.Nb5

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.14 (35 ply) 9.a3

2) +0.02 (35 ply) 9.g4 b4 10.Nce2 h6 11.O-O-O Qc7 12.Bg2 d5 13.h4 dxe4 14.g5 hxg5 15.hxg5 Rxh1 16.Bxh1 Nd5 17.Bf2 e3 18.Bxe3 N7b6 19.Qd3 Bd7 20.f4 Rc8 21.g6 f6 22.Kb1 Nxe3 23.Qxe3 a5 24.Qe4 Be7 25.f5 e5 26.Ne6 Bxe6 27.fxe6 Qc4 28.Qxc4 Rxc4 29.c3 a4 30.cxb4

3) =0.00 (34 ply) 9.O-O-O Bb7 10.a3 Rc8 11.g4 Nb6 12.Kb1 Be7 13.g5 Nfd7 14.h4 Ne5 15.Qe1 Nec4 16.Bc1 Qc7 17.Bxc4 Nxc4 18.Rd3 Ne5 19.Rd1 Nc4

60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) -0.04 (27 ply) 10...b4 11.Nce2

2) +0.24 (26 ply) 10...Nb6 11.a3 Bb7 12.h4 Rc8 13.Rh3 Nfd7 14.Kb1 Ne5 15.Qe1 Nbc4 16.Bxc4 Nxc4 17.Bf2 Qa5 18.f4 Be7 19.Nb3 Qc7 20.Nd2 e5 21.f5 O-O 22.g5 hxg5 23.hxg5 Bxg5 24.Nxc4 bxc4

3) +0.33 (26 ply) 10...Bb7 11.a3 d5 12.exd5 Nxd5 13.Nxd5 Bxd5 14.Bg2 Rc8 15.f4 Bxg2 16.Qxg2 Qc7 17.Kb1 Nb6 18.Bc1 Nc4 19.h4 Bc5 20.g5 hxg5 21.fxg5 e5 22.Ne2 g6 23.Qe4 O-O 24.Nc3

4) +0.40 (26 ply) 10...Ne5 11.a3 Bb7 12.h4 Nfd7 13.Qe1 Rc8 14.Rh3 Nc4 15.Bf2 Qc7 16.f4 Nf6 17.g5 hxg5 18.hxg5 Rxh3 19.Bxh3 Nh5 20.Bg3 g6 21.f5 gxf5 22.exf5 Nxg3 23.Qxg3 e5 24.f6

8.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: 1) +0.06 (26 ply) 11.Rg1 b4 12.Na4 Qa5 13.b3 Nc5 14.a3 Rc8 15.Qxb4 Qc7 16.Nxc5 dxc5 17.Qa4+ Nd7 18.Ne2 c4 19.Bf4 Qc6 20.Qxc6 Bxa3+ 21.Kb1 Bxc6 22.Nc1 Bb5 23.bxc4 Bxc4 24.Nb3 Be7 25.Bg3 Nb6 26.h4 Bxf1

2) =0.00 (26 ply) 11.a3 Rc8 12.h4 d5 13.Bh3 Ne5 14.g5 b4 15.axb4 Bxb4 16.gxf6 Bxc3 17.bxc3 Nc4 18.Qe1 Qa5 19.Kb1 Na3+ 20.Kc1 Nc4

3) =0.00 (26 ply) 11.Kb1

4) -0.17 (25 ply) 11.Bg2 Ne5 12.Kb1 b4 13.Na4 Nc4 14.Qe2 Rc8 15.Bc1 Qa5 16.b3 Na3+ 17.Bxa3 bxa3 18.h4 Nd7 19.Qd2 Qxd2 20.Rxd2 Be7 21.c4 Bf6 22.f4 g5 23.hxg5 hxg5 24.Rxh8+ Bxh8 25.fxg5 Nc5 26.Nxc5 dxc5

8.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8

Nov-19-17  cormier: better is 21...dxe4 22.fxg6 fxg6 23.Nxe6 Kf7 24.dxe4 Qe5 25.Bd4 = +0.40 (32 ply)
Nov-19-17  cormier: better is 25.Bb6 Qg2 26.Qxg2 Bxg2 27.Rd2 Bb7 28.Bxa5 Rh5 29.d4 e4 +1.08 (33 ply)
Nov-19-17  cormier: 38...Kh7 39.Rc1 Rh5 40.Qe8 Qd5 41.Kb2 Rxg5 42.Rd1 Nxf6 = +0.18 (44 ply)
Nov-19-17  cormier: 39...Re2 40.Rxa5 Re1+ 41.Kb2 Qd2 42.Rc5 Qc1+ 43.Kc3 Re2 ± +2.06 (36 ply)
Nov-19-17  cormier: +- mate-in-18 after 42...Qxd8 43.Qxd8 Rh3 44.Qxa5 Rh4 45.Qa8 Rg4 46.Ne3
Nov-19-17  cormier: 45...Qxf6 46.gxf6 Kh6 47.Qc5 Rh3+ 48.Ka4 Ra3+ 49.Nxa3 +- mate-in-61-0
Nov-19-17  goodevans: <cormier: 1) +0.13 (38 ply) 1...e6 etc.

2) +0.21 (37 ply) 1...c5 etc.

3) +0.28 (37 ply) 1...e5 etc.

2.5 hour analysis by Stockfish 8>

Your point being?

Nov-19-17  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 26 done

1. = + (-0.35): 13...Nfd7 14.Nce2 Nb6 15.Qa5 Nbc4 16.Qxd8+ Rxd8 17.Bxc4 Nxc4 18.Bc1 Be7 19.b3 Ne5 20.h3 Rc8 21.Bd2 g5 22.Ng3 Bd8 23.f4 gxf4 24.Bxf4 Bg5 25.Rf1 b4 26.Bxe5 dxe5 27.Nf3 Bf4 28.Nh5 Ke7

2. = (-0.09): 13...Be7 14.h4 Nfd7 15.g5 Nc5 16.a3 Ncxd3 17.cxd3 h5 18.f4 Ng4 19.f5 e5 20.Nc2 d5 21.exd5 a5 22.Nxb5 Qxd5 23.Nc3 Qd7 24.Bb6 Qxf5 25.Ne3 Qe6 26.Bxa5 0-0 27.d4 Qb3 28.Qc2 Qxc2+ 29.Nxc2 Bf3 30.Rc1

Nov-19-17  cormier: for fun ......
Nov-19-17  ColeTrane: wow <cormier> you just inundated us with techno babble from a program that we all already have-- that was so "fun" of you-- NOT!

why don't you use your thinker to elaborate instead of a cut n paste tool

Nov-20-17
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  kevin86: kaspy played on a piece down but to no avail
Dec-27-20  fisayo123: I think this was one of the 1st games featuring this classic "English attack". Very exciting game by both. This was the type of position Short excelled in and it was typical of him to outplay pretty much anyone in the early middlegame but stumble afterwards in the middlegame and late middlegame. Fortunately for him, Garry blundered in time trouble. The f6/g5 pawn wedge always made for nasty mating potential.

Another thing is Garry in the 80's and 90's tended to have problems with younger players or players his age in his 1st encounters with them. He usually needed time to get a feel for their style and then he invariably went on to dominate them.

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