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|Apr-06-17|| ||celsochini: <northernsoul> nice tip about the article! Thank you!|
|Apr-06-17|| ||whiteshark: "The final position of Piket - Kasparov is still on one of the demonstration boards and suddenly I realise Kasparov's queen is still on d8 - <and has never moved in all of the 41 moves of that game.>"|
Tim Krabbé in the link provided by <northernsoul>
|Aug-16-18|| ||NBZ: Wonderful article indeed. It's a very short read and yet I came away feeling that I had been able to glimpse into the soul of Kasparov.|
|Aug-16-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: After 23. Rd1 White stays 2 pawns up
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|Aug-18-18|| ||OrangeTulip: Great dynamic play by Piket. What a pitty for chess he retired so soon|
|Nov-09-19|| ||al wazir: 41...Rg6. Now what?|
|Nov-09-19|| ||WorstPlayerEver: 22... Rd4 23. Nf3 Rxd6 24. Nxb7 Rd3 25. Qxb4 Rd1+ 26. Rxd1 Qxd1+ 27. Qe1 Qxe1+ 28. Nxe1 Bxb2 |
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Could be winning, could be not. Kasparov probably thought it would.
|Nov-09-19|| ||mel gibson: I saw the first move and so did Stockfish 10
but there's not much more than a pawn in it -
it's really a draw:
(21. a3 (a2-a3 ♘c4xd2 ♘f3xd2 ♖e4-d4 ♘d2-f3 ♖d4-d3 ♕b3-c4
b7-b5 ♕c4xb5 ♕d8-e8 ♕b5xe8+ ♖a8xe8 ♘a4xc5 ♘b4-c2 ♘c5xd3 ♘c2xa1 ♘d3-c5
♖e8-d8 ♘f3-d2 ♔g8-f8 d6-d7 ♔f8-e7 ♘d2-c4 ♗g7-d4 ♗g3-d6+ ♔e7-f6 ♗d6-c7
♔f6-e7 ♗c7xd8+ ♔e7xd8 b2-b4 ♘a1-c2 ♔g1-f1 ♗d4xc5 b4xc5 ♘c2-d4 ♘c4-e5 f7-f6
♘e5-g4 ♔d8xd7 h2-h4 ♘d4-f5 ♘g4xf6+ ♔d7-c6 g2-g3 ♔c6xc5 ♔f1-e2 ♔c5-c4 ♔e2-f3
♔c4-b3 ♔f3-e4 ♘f5-d6+ ♔e4-e5 ♘d6-c4+ ♔e5-e6 ♔b3xa3 ♔e6-f7 ♔a3-b4 ♔f7xg6
a7-a5) +1.36/42 257)
Score for White +1.36 depth 42
When Kasparov resigned
Stockfish 10 says:
(♖b6-g6 ♔h2-g1 a5-a4 g2-g3
♕d8-e7 ♘c5-e6+ f7xe6 ♕e5-b8+ ♔f8-f7 d7-d8♕ ♖g6xg5 ♕b8-f4+ ♖g5-f5 ♕d8xe7+
♔f7xe7 ♕f4xh4+ ♔e7-e8 ♕h4xa4+ ♔e8-e7 ♕a4-b4+ ♔e7-d7 h3-h4 ♖f5-h5 ♕b4-g4
♖h5-a5 ♕g4-d4+ ♖a5-d5 ♕d4-a4+ ♔d7-d6 ♕a4-b4+ ♔d6-d7 g3-g4 e6-e5 ♕b4-b7+
♔d7-d6 ♕b7-a6+ ♔d6-d7 h4-h5 ♖d5-d4 ♕a6-e2 ♔d7-e6 h5-h6 ♖d4-b4 h6-h7 ♖b4-b8
♕e2-a6+ ♔e6-d5 ♕a6-d3+ ♔d5-c5 ♕d3-e4 ♔c5-d6 g4-g5 ♔d6-e6 g5-g6) -15.09/34
score for Black -15.09 depth 34
|Nov-09-19|| ||murkia: One of my favourite CG puzzles but certainly my favourite kibitz. Nostalgia kicked in. I used to frequent Bram's bar, next door to the Krasnapolsky (surely the hotel in question) in the late 60's.
|Nov-09-19|| ||OhioChessFan: Answering <chessdr> from almost 15 years ago. |
41...Rc6 42. g3 is a straight forward win.
|Nov-09-19|| ||goodevans: <al wazir: 41...Rg6. Now what?>|
You'll find the answer to that in David2009's post of Aug-14-10 (14-Aug-10 to us Brits) although quite why 42.Kh1! is such a good move is beyond me.
|Nov-09-19|| ||goodevans: Following on from my last post:
Personally, I understand 41...Rg6 42.g3 better. This is also good enough for the win.
If black plays ...Rxg5 (either immediately or after 42...hxg3 43.Kg2) then white plays Qd6+ followed by Nb7. If black doesn't take on g5 then white marches a pawn up the h-file.
|Nov-09-19|| ||King.Arthur.Brazil: Believe it or not, when I saw that the Black was the powerful Kasparov, I didn't realize till the end, that was WHITE who wins... lgs. But of course, I saw the Black zugswang, it was then I understand that I was solving it on a wrong direction... well, after such mistake, all I can do it is show the presumable end: 41...♕b8 42. ♕xb8+ ♖xb8 43. ♘b7 ♔e7 44. d8=♕+ ♖xd8 45. ♘xd8 ♔xd8 46. g3 hxg3+ 47. ♔xg3 ♔c7 48. h4 ♔b6 49. h5 ♔b5 50. g6 fxg6 51. hxg6 ♔a4 52. g7 ♔a3 53. g8=♕.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||OhioChessFan: <goodevans> 41...Rg6 42. Kh1 just passes the move back to Black who almost has to move the Rook off the g file, and negates the g file attack. I agree that I'd have played g3 after Rc8 or Rg8 regardless.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||OhioChessFan: Did anyone else get a perverse sense of enjoyment from the POTD being a Kasparov loss?|
|Nov-09-19|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Another poorly designed puzzle. The whole thing is pretty obvious until Move 26 or so, and one would play game moves to that point whether or not one had calculated in advance what to do then.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||keypusher: <OhioChessFan: Did anyone else get a perverse sense of enjoyment from the POTD being a Kasparov loss?>|
The funny thing is I was playing through the moves (not having gotten here via the puzzle) and just assuming that Kasparov was going to win. It wasn't until the last few moves that it suddenly dawned on me that Black was losing.
|Nov-09-19|| ||agb2002: Black threatens Nxd2.
The first idea that comes to mind is 21.Nxc5 Nxd2 22.Nxd2, trying to take advantage of the compromised black pieces. For example, 22... Rd4 23.Nf3 Rg4 (23... Rxd6 24.Nxb7) 24.Ne6 Qd7 (or 24... Qc8; 24... fxe6 25.Qxe6+ and 26.Qxg4) 25.Nxg7 Kxg7 26.Ne5 Qf5 27.Nxg4 looks very good for White.
That's all I can do today.
|Nov-09-19|| ||Dionysius1: What's wrong with 22...Rd4 then? It protects the N and I can't see anything for white to justify this being a puzzle, or even a position of interest.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||sophiephilo: Beautifully done!
Got the first four moves. Am I permitted to pat my back?
|Nov-09-19|| ||Carrots and Pizza: I got the first few moves as well. Seemed obvious to me, for some strange reason. Is this a proper Saturday puzzle? The moves seemed rather forced.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||OhioChessFan: 22...Rd4 is tough to crack. I don't see much.|
|Nov-09-19|| ||Carrots and Pizza: <OhioChessFan: 22...Rd4 is tough to crack. I don't see much.>|
What about 23.Nf3 ? That attacks the Rook. Where does it go?
|Nov-10-19|| ||keypusher: < Carrots and Pizza: <OhioChessFan: 22...Rd4 is tough to crack. I don't see much.>
What about 23.Nf3 ? That attacks the Rook. Where does it go?>|
23....Rxd6! and if 24.Bxd6 Qxd6 25.Qxb4 Rc8=.
|Nov-10-19|| ||patzer2: For this Saturday (21. ?) puzzle, 21. Nxc5 ± (+0.61 @ 37 ply, Stockfish 10) results in White trading a Rook for two pieces and eventually winning the game.|
However, this near winning advantage appears to be the result of less than best play on Black's part. In particular, 22...Re2? 23. Qxb4 ± to +- (+1.80 @ 32 ply, Stockfish 10) gives White a near won game. Instead, 22...Rd4 ⩲(+0.58 @ 42 ply, Stockfish 10) gives
Black very good drawing chances.
P.S.: It may be that 21. Nxc5! is not White's strongest move.
The computer prefers 21. a3! Nxd2 22. Nxd2 Rd4 23. Nf3 ±, when play might continue 23...Rd3 24. Qc4 b5 25. Qxb5 Qe8 26. Qxe8+ Rxe8 27. Nxc5 Nc2 28. Nxd3 Nxa1 29. Nc5 Rd8 30. Nd2 Kf8 31. d7 Ke7 32. Nc4 Bd4 33. Bd6+ Kf6 34. Bc7 Ke7 35. Bxd8+ Kxd8 36. Nb7+ Kxd7 37. Nba5 ± (+1.26 @ 35 ply, Stockfish 10) with White being a pawn up going into the end game.
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