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| Jan-13-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 16.Bh6 Stockfish thinks that Keene is "miles" away from a win...
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<54/82 1:06:37 +0.08 16...Nc6 17.Bxf8 Bxf8 18.Nxc6 Rxc6 19.Bc2 Rc7 20.Qd2 Be7> 21.Rd3 Ba6 22.Rf3 Bb7 23.d5 exd5 24.Rd1 Nh5 25.Ba4 Bg5 26.Qd4 Bf6 27.Qb4 d4 28.Rxf6 Nxf6 29.Rxd4 Qf8 30.Qxf8+ Kxf8 31.f3 h5 32.Kf2 Bc8 33.Bb3 Bf5 34.Ke3 Re7+ 35.Kd2 Rd7 36.Nb5 Rxd4+ 37.Nxd4 Bd7 38.Bc4 a5 39.a3 Ne8 40.g3 Ke7 41.Kc3 Nd6 42.Bd5 g5 43.h4 gxh4 44.gxh4 a4 |
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| Jan-13-20 | | RandomVisitor: Note that if 16...Nc6 17.Nxg6 hxg6 18.Bxg6 fxg6 19.Qb1 Qe8. This square for the black queen becomes unavailable in the game when black plays 16.Re8. |
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| Jan-13-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 15.Bh6
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<60/81 2:42:38 +0.61 15...Re8 16.Rg3 Bf8 17.Bg5 Be7 18.h4> Nd7 19.Be4 Bxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe5 21.dxe5 Qxd1+ 22.Rxd1 Nd5 23.Rf3 h5 24.Nd6 Rf8 25.Bxe7 Nxe7 26.Rc1 Nd5 27.g3 Rad8 28.Kg2 Kg7 29.a3 Rd7 30.Rc2 Rfd8 31.Rc6 Ra8 32.Kf1 Rad8 33.Rc1 Kf8 34.Rc2 Kg8 35.Kg1 Kg7 36.Kg2 Kf8 37.Rc6 Kg7 38.Kf1 Kf8 39.Rc1 Kg7 40.Ke2 Kg8 41.Rd3 Kf8 42.b4 Ne7 43.Rdd1 Nd5 44.Ne4 b5 45.Rd2 a5 46.bxa5 Ra7 47.Nf6 Rxa5 48.Nxd5 Rxd5 49.Rxd5 exd5 |
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| Mar-23-20 | | Caissanist: Julio Kaplan, writing about this game in the April 1976 issue of Chess Life and Review (after 15..Rc8?): <After this Black is lost. I was passing by the board when Miles made this move. He stood up, looking very nervous, and whispered to me: "I think I may be getting mated here! He can sac all his pieces!" Such nervous outbursts are common among chessplayers; no reply or opinion is expected, or indeed allowed. So I just smiled, put on my non-committal expression reserved for such occasions, and resumed my pacing. Then Keene played 16 Bh6,
stood up looking just as nervous, and told me: "I think it is mate! I think I can sac all my pieces!" So I was not surprised when I saw the following sequence> |
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Jul-31-21
 | | drollere: i thought the double sac on g6 looked perfectly fine; the black K is hemmed by the B on h6 and black's pieces are all looking in the wrong direction. however like <Sally Simpson> i did not see the Q maneuver. i thought 20. Rxg6+ and, depending on the K flight square, Qd3 or R/B checks would suffice. |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Brenin: This game is perhaps too famous (in the UK, anyway). The N and B sacs on g6 are easy to see, but the follow-up 20 Qb1 is harder, as b1 is currently occupied. 20 Qd3 and Qc2 are answered with Ne5, but with the Q safe on b1 Black must give back the two minor pieces to protect g6, and still has to endure a mating attack. A great combination from a player more noted for his positional play. |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Tiggler: I assumed that the bishop sac would come first, before the knight. Does it make a difference? |
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| Jul-31-21 | | mel gibson: That wasn't difficult.
3 pieces were attacking g6 so
that's where the action had to be.
Stockfish 14 says:
18.Nxg6
! (18. Nxg6 (♘e5xg6 h7xg6 ♗b1xg6 ♗e7-d6 ♗g6xf7+ ♔g8xf7 ♖g3-g7+
♔f7-f8 ♕d1-f3 ♖e8-e7 ♕f3xf6+ ♔f8-e8 ♖g7-g8+ ♔e8-d7 ♖g8xd8+ ♘c6xd8 ♖a1-e1
♘d8-f7 d4-d5 ♗b7xd5 ♘c3xd5 e6xd5 ♖e1xe7+ ♗d6xe7 ♕f6-f5+ ♔d7-d8 ♕f5xf7
♖c8-c6 ♗h6-f4 ♖c6-f6 ♕f7xd5+ ♔d8-e8 ♕d5-e5 ♔e8-f7 ♕e5-h5+ ♖f6-g6 ♗f4-e5
♗e7-f6 ♗e5xf6 ♔f7xf6 ♕h5xg6+ ♔f6xg6 b2-b4 b6-b5 f2-f3 ♔g6-g5 g2-g3 ♔g5-h6
♔g1-f2 ♔h6-h5 h2-h4 ♔h5-g6 g3-g4 ♔g6-g7) +7.97/35 305) score for White +7.97 depth 35. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | piltdown man: Great attack! |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Walter Glattke: A) 18.Nxg6 hxg6 19.Bxg6 fxg6 20.Rxg6+ Kf7 21.Rg7+ Kf8 22.Qd3 Qxd4 23.Rh7+ Kg8 24.Qg6# A2) 20.-Kh7 21.Qd3 Qxd4 22.Rg7++ Kh8 23.Qg6 Qg4 24.Rh7+ Nxh7 25.Qxg4 Rg8 26.Qxe6 +- Rxg2+ 27.Kf1 Nxd4 28.Qxe7 +-
B) 18.Nxg6 hxg6 19. Bxg6 Bf8 20.Bc2+ Kh8 21.Rh3 +-
Several more ways. |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Stanco: Tiggler, yes it makes difference.
Taking with bishop first, you are one piece attacking on g6 down right after in Nxe5! It also brings black Knight into defense, and you don't have double check and mate with Bf7+, black King simply takes on f7.
The whole idea with 17.Nxg6 is that you threatening 18.Ne7# and forcing black to take on g6. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | Honza Cervenka: I know this game as well as the mentioned game Filip vs J Pogats, 1961. There is a subtle but important difference in the position, which allowed black to survive. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | chrisowen: Quelle it suprise vastus quincy Nxg6 hobble achtung munchy arrive it okays it seems like vastus vestige quibble vastum its mr footplate puzzled its query like its bigots vestiged it bike gosh its within wan jock cojoin its minch poz its zelda routy doze lovely truly wits i vastus totadd iotaus dogged it ignoble ehsums axioms koinus i vestige ji its ajar gobble vestige guffaws its pointed its wooly its chez roofmit i vestige Nxg6 earwig; |
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Jul-31-21
| | chrisowen: Wrack cars i c Ng6 wins :) |
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Jul-31-21
| | chrisowen: No roy of the rover g6 no |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Walter Glattke: Filip-Pogats: 24.Rd7+ Kg8 25.Qe3 Bxh2+ 26.Kh1 Qxd7 27.Qg5+ seems to win for white instead of 24.Rg3+ draw (26.-Nh7 27.Qxe4) |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Walter Glattke: Ah, 26.-Nxd7 27.Qxe4 Qf6! so netter draw there |
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Jul-31-21
| | chrisowen: 364 days no? Oh my days ear minus one? |
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Jul-31-21
 | | agb2002: Level 3.5: 25.?
Lilienthal vs S Landau, 1934
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Jul-31-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: Already knew this one, but still fun to study. Interesting, these IQP positions--Black can play solid, safe-looking, logical moves and yet the next thing you know, White has conjured an attack seemingly out of nowhere. |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Brenin: <Honza Cervenka>: The difference between the two positions (before White's 18th move) is that in Filip vs Pogats Black has a more stable Q-side (Pb7, Bc6, Nd5), with no hanging B on b7 (as Miles had) and with the two Ns defending each other (as Miles did not have). This allowed Pogats the defence 19 ... Bd6 20 Bxf7+ Kxf7 21 Rg7+ Kf8; here Filip played 22 Nxd5 Bxd5 23 Qd3 Be4 24 Rg3 and a draw was agreed, though he might have retained some advantage with 22 Rd7+ Kg8 23 Rxd8 Rcxd8 24 Qf3. If Miles had tried this defence then 22 Rxb7+ or 22 Rd7+ Kg8 23 Rxd8 Rcxd8 24 Qf3 would have given Keene a big advantage in view of Black's looser position. |
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| Jul-31-21 | | Stanco: dogs and beavers on g6 no |
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Jul-31-21
| | chrisowen: Alls ta and non plays paves 7 |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: Garbage |
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| Aug-01-21 | | RookFile: It's black's turn to move. What do you play?
click for larger viewThe Nimzovich student, having carefully read My System, plays ....Nb4 here. Meanwhile, a beginner, fresh from reading his first Fred Reinfeld book, plays ...Bd7 and emphasizes development. Guess which move is better? Why, ....Bd7, of course. There is a position just like this in the queen's gambit accepted where ...Nb4 is wrong and allows white a terrific kingside attack. I suppose ....h6 is technically the best move. The point of this exercise is to highlight the fact that it's too soon to worry about planting a knight on d5. Maybe at some point you pursue the blockade, but not until all your pieces are in the game. |
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