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Philip Stuart Milner-Barry vs Paul Keres
Margate (1937), Margate ENG, rd 2, Apr-01
King's Gambit: General (C30)  ·  1/2-1/2



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May-19-08  devioustalfan: why not 4.Nd5 c6 5.Nc7+ Qxc7 6.f5 making even me think twice about going ...0-0 and black's development is limited as a plus.
May-19-08  Aspirador: Black is a whole piece up. No compensation there. Why do you want to give a piece for free?
May-20-08  RookFile: Keres was one of the strongest players in the world. I'm sure that Milner-Barry thought he needed to play a safe game here.
May-21-08  devioustalfan: <Aspirador>
because when I play games w/the N sac, white generally comes out on top.
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  whiteshark: You are a fish, devioustalfan!
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  whiteshark: You are really a fish, devioustalfan!
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  whiteshark: You are really a big fish, devioustalfan!
May-22-08  devioustalfan: <whiteshark>
Play this out and tell me does white not play well?
1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3. Nc3 d4 4.Nd5 c6! 5. Nc7+! now black MUST play ...Qxc7 or have his king out in the open to perish soon. 5...Qxc7 6.d3 Nf6 7.f5 now if 7...B4+ then 8.Bd2 Bxd2+ 9. Qxd2 0-0 10.0-0-0 with a kingside pawn storm to follow. but if instead 7...Bd6 8. Nf3 0-0 9. g3 c5 10.Bg2 Nc6 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bxf6 then 13.Qd2 and 14. 0-0-0 with a short endgame to follow. 12...gxf6 leads to the position shown below:

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  whiteshark: <devioustalfan... <with a kingside pawn storm to follow>>

1) Show me the pawn storm after <10...c5>, please.

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And even if there is one, it's not necessarily successful.

2) Furthermore black isn't forced to play 9...0-0., e.g. 9...c5 10.Nf3 Nc6 with the intention to castle long.

You sacrificed your knight for nothing.

Jun-02-08  devioustalfan: <whiteshark<devioustalfan... <with a kingside pawn storm to follow>> 1) Show me the pawn storm after <10...c5>, please.>

11.Nf3 completing development then 11...h6 (attempting to discourage 12.Ng5) 12.h3 now if black tries to break the impending attack 13.g4 with 12...Bxf5 then 13.g4! is played anyhow as ...Bxg4 hxg4 is disastrous w/connected Rooks on the h-file. If the more prudent 12...Nd7 is played then 13.g4 Re8 14. Qxh6 gxh6 15.h4 (15...h5 is useless as gxh5 leads to an open g-file and Rg1+ with Be2 Rg2 Rdg1 is a disastrous mating threat)the attack ...c4 is useless.

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