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Max Lange vs Adolf Anderssen
Berlin Congress GCF (1852)
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit Lopez Variation (C33)  ·  1-0

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May-28-04  zb2cr: 18 d5 is a beautiful concept, providing an additional target for the Queen's attack from c3.
Jun-05-04  zb2cr: HELP!!

I took another look at this game...and I am not seeing a forced White win after 24...Qf5. Just why did Black resign anyway? After 24...Qf5, 25 Qh4 is answered by 25...Ra4; 25 Re1+ drives the Black King where he wants to be, d7. What am I not seeing? Does anyone know how one can submit a position to "crafty" for analysis?

Jun-05-04  acirce: My Fritz 8 finds nothing either.
Jun-05-04  zb2cr: <acirce>Thank you! Now I know I wasn't suffering from "chess blind spot", at least. After 24...Qf5; 25Bxf6+, Qxf6; 26 Qh5, Qxb2 appears to cover everything. What can it be?
Jun-05-04  acirce: I seem to vaguely remember this game and that it may have something to do with unnecessary resignation, but I am not sure at all. Any chess historian?
Jun-05-04
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  vonKrolock: Gottschall's "AA der Altmeister Deutscher Schachspielkunst" says in page 108 only: "Weiss kann Figurenverlust nicht vermeiden" - and that's the curious fact: here White is Black and vice-versa - Lange had Black, and made the first move! (this costume was in use in the 1850's!
Jun-07-04  zb2cr: <vonKrolock>, Okay, after reading your comment, am I correct in guessing that the German, <Weiss kann Figurenverlust nicht vermeiden>, means "White cannot avoid the loss of a piece"? So that with the game displayed as is--colors reversed--Black is supposed to lose a piece? I still don't see it!
Jun-07-04  acirce: I think it is clear that in the final position shown here there is no win - there must simply be an error somewhere.
Jun-07-04  ughaibu: The game is as given in the Pickard book except that it wasn't a tournament game, it's in the informal games section. After 24....Qf5 25.Qh4 white's position looks very strong to me, eg 25....Kd7 26.Nd4 Qd5 27.Kg1 Ne8 28.Qg4 etc.
Jun-07-04  crafty: 24. ... ♕f5 25. ♗xf6+ ♕xf6 26. ♕h5 ♕g6 27. ♕xb5 ♕xc2+   (eval -0.52; depth 13 ply; 1000M nodes)
Jun-07-04  zb2cr: <uqhaibu>,
After 24...Qf5; 25 Qh4, what about 25...Ra4 as I suggested?
Jun-07-04  ughaibu: Zb2cr: Sorry I missed that suggestion. I think black will lose a piece because of the pin, 24....Qf5 25.Qh4 Ra4 26.b4 c5 27.Nd2 Qe5 28.Ne4 Rb4 etc, however black has plenty of pawns so it's not really clear that white'll win.
Jun-07-04  zb2cr: <ughaibu>,
Thanks for the analysis. Does 24...Qf5; 25 Qh4, Ra4; 26 b4, Qxc2+, 27 Rf2, Qg6 hold for Black? Looks like if White plays 28 Re1+, he removes one of the pieces concentrating on the pinned Knight. Also, the move 28 Nh2, with the idea of Ng4, looks too time-consuming.
Jun-07-04  acirce: I was also looking at 26...Qxc2+ 27. Rf2 Qg6 and see no way to get an advantage for White, on the contrary. Black will get three pawns for an exchange in more than one line.

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