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John William Schulten vs Eugene Rousseau
New Orleans (1841), New Orleans, LA USA
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit Lopez Variation (C33)  ·  0-1

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Aug-04-09  zb2cr: Found this one rather quickly, perhaps 20 seconds.

I have nothing to add to the comments by <dzechiel>, <zooter>, <Kasputine>, <BlackWaive>, <TheBish>, <agb2002>, and <TheaN>.

Aug-04-09
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  Honza Cervenka: 32.Rb8 seems to stop the threat of mate.
Aug-04-09
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  johnlspouge: Tuesday (Easy):

J Schulten vs E Rousseau, 1843 (32...?)

Black to play and win.

Material: Down B+P for R. The White Ka3 is stalemated, so checks are prime candidates. Black has a forced mate, so everything else is irrelevant.

Candidates (32…): Ra4+

32…Ra4+ 33.bxa4 b4#

In the original position, the mating piece almost determined by the fact that only Re4 and Pb5 can give check to a dark square.

Aug-04-09  kingfu: Does 32....Bc3 hold? White has to give up the bishop, but there is no immediate mate. After that, White must prevent the a pawn from advancing to a5 then a4 which would also lead to mate.
Aug-04-09  YetAnotherAmateur: To answer kingfu's rather interesting question: It definitely looks to me like 32. Bc3 is far superior to the game line.

32. Bc3 c5

If any non-checking move after that, 33. ... Ra4+ 34. bxa4 b4+ 35. Bxb4 cxb4#

Some more interesting lines out there are:
33. Rf17+ Kc6 (if 33. ... Ke6 34. Re8+ and the e4 rook is traded away, bad for black in this position)

If 34. Rf6+ Kb7
35. Rf7+ Ka8
36. Ra6 (to prevent Ra4+, Rf6+ leads to perpetual check) b4+ 37. Ka4 bxc3+
38. Ka5 (Kb5 Rb4+ 39. Ka5)
And white is hard-pressed to stop the b-pawn.

If, on the other hand 34. Rc8+ Kd6 (Kb6 leads to the loss of the b pawn), and I don't have the time to fully analyze that line.

Aug-04-09
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  whiteshark: Monday, Monday, can't trust that day.
Aug-04-09
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  Honza Cervenka: <kingfu: Does 32. Bc3 hold?> It's definitely better than text but it drops a piece giving black still some edge. 32.Rb8 is probably better way to prevent threatening mate.
Aug-04-09  Patriot: 32...Ra4+ 33.bxa4 b4# pretty much does it.

Seeing the threat above, 32.R1f5 shouldn't have been considered. Perhaps giving the exchange back with 32.R1f4 is a good consideration at this point.

Aug-04-09  Patriot: <Honza Cervenka: <kingfu: Does 32. Bc3 hold?> It's definitely better than text but it drops a piece giving black still some edge. 32.Rb8 is probably better way to prevent threatening mate.>

32.Rb8 is definitely a nice candidate.

Aug-04-09  Spartaco: It vaguely reminds me of the (overlooked) checkmate in: M Gurevich vs R Ovetchkin, 2007
Aug-04-09  The Rocket: I dont think I ever stared this long on a easy:) of course the rook sack cam to my mind instantly because of the lack of squares for the king but it actually took me a while after checking the other variations to the realizing its mate in 3!.
Aug-04-09  zanshin: Good news: I got it! Bad news: It's only Tuesday.
Aug-04-09  SharkGypsy: Beautiful game! Bravo!
Aug-04-09  jsheedy: 32...Ra4+!, 33. bxa4, b4# -- nowhere to hide!
Aug-04-09  muralman: I like this puzzle. It teaches you, once again, to look at all possibilities. I looked at push the pawn, then rook check, obviously to be taken. Then pushing the pawn was an option. The rook was gone. Who is to protect the pawn? The knight. It is checkmate.
Aug-04-09  LIFE Master AJ: Gosh, I thought for over 15 minutes, and I had no clue about how to solve this one.
Aug-04-09  LIFE Master AJ: Naturally ... I was jesting. (One for the "Odd Lie" page?)
Aug-04-09  gtgloner: Seems simple enough. 32. ... Ra4+ forces 33. bxa4 b4#. Let's see.
Aug-04-09  LIFE Master AJ: J Schulten vs E Rousseau, 1843

Tuesday / August 4th, 2009.

Black to move and play his thirty-second move. (32... ?)

Anytime the King is on the edge of the board, experience has taught me that this allows all kinds of mating opportunities to arise, this game is no exception to that "rule of thumb."

Thus 32...Ra4+! (The KOTOV rule for combinations.) White is forced to capture, as he has no flight squares. 33.bxa4, and now 33...b5-b4#. (Its a perfect epaulette mate.)

Aug-04-09  ALwoodpusher: Seems like black could have played 28...b5! instead of 28...Re6 which ends up wasting a move.
Aug-04-09  ounos: From a cursory look, it seems 23. ...Bc4+ is much better than 23. ...Ba4+. For example: 24. Ka4 b5+ 25. Ka5 Ne5


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26. Bxd4 Nc6+ 27. Ka6 b4#

The attack looks very strong. Can anyone find a defence?

Aug-04-09  ounos: Oh, the irony in my last post: that line also finishes with b4#, but with an entirely different mate :)
Aug-04-09  sileps: Black to play and win. White seems to have won the exchange, but that doesn't help much when black can mate in two:

32..Ra4+!, bxa4 (forced), b4#.

A very cute mate. It took me 10-20 seconds to actually realize that white was mated after b4 because of the strange position.

Aug-04-09  mworld: <Manic: Why does the opening explorer think 12...0-0-0 is a Q sac?>

that's a good catch - its definitely an exchange.

Aug-04-09
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  patzer2: After White's blunder 32. R1f5?? (with his won-loss record it would appear this was not an uncommon occurentce for Schulten), Rosseau finds the mate-in-two with 32...Ra4+! which solves today's Tuesday puzzle.

<LIFE Master AJ: Naturally ... I was jesting. (One for the "Odd Lie" page?)> Kind of like "I have no intention of getting between you and your Doctor," or if Congress will hurry and pass the $787 Billion stimulus bill unemployment won't go above 8% (see http://mediamatters.org/research/20...).

A.J., Good to see you active here again.

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