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R Shirley Jr vs Bill Wall
Dayton (1982), Dayton, OH USA
King's Gambit: Accepted. Modern Defense (C36)  ·  0-1

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Jan-28-08  general607: got it rather quickly, although I found myself looking for more than "just" a hanging knight.
Jan-28-08  JG27Pyth: Lol... So, uh, Bill Wall is a CG contributor and chess author... uh... please don't be offended... I didn't say you were terrible, just your opponent!
Jan-28-08  johnlspouge: <Gilmoy: <just a kid:> Correct, 10..Qe3+ would be a blunder. However, it's still a "move that smites", so <johnspoulge> is also correct to list it as a candidate.>

In a previous kibitz, I explained my policy towards candidates. It is liberal, because when you get to Difficult or Insane, "impossible" moves are often exactly the ones you wish to justify, once you have a full grasp of the position. A full list at the beginning of analysis gets the possibilities into your head, so you can juggle them around in "solving" a position.

Thanks for coming to my aid, <Gilmoy>.

Jan-28-08  TheEnterprise: I got it. Kind of hard for a Monday, as it took me 1-2 minutes to solve.
Jan-28-08  Marmot PFL: Pretty lame opening by white. With several ways to get advantage he gets careless and finds a way to lose instead.
Jan-28-08  legalmover24: Yeah, I got this one after about 5 mins of looking at discovered attacks on the knight; I knew there had to be a way to win that silly horse!
Jan-28-08  MostlyAverageJoe: <TrueBlue> and <others who expressed opinion that this puzzle was a bit tougher than most Mondays>:

My engine-based evaluation puts the difficulty of this puzzle right in the middle between average Monday and Tuesday.

Out of 47 weeks of analyzed puzzles, 13 Mondays were more difficult than this one. Out of Tuesday puzzles, 15 were easier than this one. There were also 3 Wed. puzzles easier than this one.

Jan-28-08
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  playground player: We're so conditioned to looking for Queen sacs on a Monday, this puzzle held me up for a while: kept trying to sacrifice my Queen and wind up with something other than egg on my face.

White was right to throw in the towel after the Black Queen took his Knight on g5. It only gets worse after that.

Jan-28-08  MostlyAverageJoe: <playground player: We're so conditioned to looking for Queen sacs on a Monday>

The last Monday Q sac was on Dec 24th. Five weeks should be long enough to break out of the conditioning, no?

Note that 2 weeks ago, we had a Q exchange, not a sac, so it did not count.

Jan-28-08  twin phoenix: Bill Wall, the author of several 500 King's Gambit miniatures, is a funny guy. i have fond memories of him as a child.

all you have to do see Bill Wall playing a kings gambit and it's a mini then you know who's going to win!

a pleasant combination to prove that blacks 9.--,Q-e7! did have some teeth.

Jan-28-08
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  kevin86: The simple lesson for white is not to leave so many pieces hanging undefended. Even if they are defended,a powerful move can blast them apart.
Jan-28-08  Waitaka: <MostlyAverageJoe><Five weeks should be long enough to break out of the conditioning, no?>

It is really a surprise for me, MAJ, because I try this puzzle everyday, and I still spend a lot of time on Mondays looking for a winning Q Sac.

Jan-28-08  whiteshark: <Waitaka> <MAJ> Talking about conditioning - when I found today's solution - and it wasn't a ♕sac, I thought it was already Tuesday! The whole day. I still can't believe it. Are you positive about today is Monday??? :D
Jan-28-08
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  benveniste: R Shirley Jr, has three games in the database. In the other two games, he didn't even last this long.

I have found a soulmate. Shirley, you can't be serious!

Jan-28-08  slowcrawl: <whiteshark: After the exchange on f4 the g5 is unprotected: 10...xf4 11. xf4 e3+ 12. f2 xg5> Well thanks for telling us that... we couldn't have known that without you telling us...
Jan-28-08  whiteshark: <slowcrawl> That's why! :D
Jan-28-08  wals: Ran into serious trouble as had white as the first move. Had no chance of regaining my detachment and calm reflection. Life can be a real bitch.
Jan-28-08  TheaN: 1/1

10....Bxf4 11.Rxf4 (is there something else? Guess not.) Qe3+ 12.Rf2 Qxg5 are very, VERY easy tactics.

Jan-28-08  just a kid: I understand now. Thanks <gilmoy> and <johnlspouge>.
Jan-28-08  GannonKnight: That was it? I guess that I was expecting moves leading for a forced mate.
Jan-28-08  MaxxLange: White's play reminds me of players I knew who would play a gambit, then try as hard as they could to win back the pawn. It was almost like that was the point of playing gambits - hey, I won my pawn back! The poor guy seems to have grabbed on f4 without looking at all.
Jan-28-08  YouRang: I may be a bit tired -- it took me a couple minutes to see the solution (it didn't help that I started looking for white moves. :-|)

But eventually, I found the bishop exchange that sets up the queen fork of K+R, which ends up winning a knight as the white endeavors to save the rook. Nice.

Jan-28-08  zenpharaohs: It took me a minute or two but I got it. I have no excuses like being tired though.
Jan-28-08
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  Sneaky: Shirley you jest!

(sorry couldn't resist)

Nov-08-22
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  Messiah: Disaster.
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