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David Pruess vs Walter Shipman
"The Pruess is Right" (game of the day Aug-26-2011)
Mechanics Masters (1998), San Francisco USA, rd 5, Dec-13
King's Gambit: Accepted. Rosentreter-Testa Gambit (C37)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-05  DAL9000: How has this game not been commented on yet? Consider the situation after move 18. It looks like Black's completely weathered the storm and White is a Knight down with very little compensation. So naturally White sacs the Exchange /and then his Queen/, which forces a smooth transition to a clearly winning endgame... and nobody notices?!
Oct-22-05  DAL9000: On a more practical note, having a Bishop at f5 is what makes the 24. Qxc5+!! combination possible; the Bishop couldn't have taken up residence there if the square were covered, naturally. So, if Black plays 20... Qh5 instead of 20... Qg8, how does White proceed?
Jan-07-07  Rubenus: <DAL9000> I agree with you! The position after 23...d4 would be a good Sunday or Saturday puzzle.
Jan-24-07  Rubenus: Could Crafty analyse the position after 19. Rxd5?
Jun-27-07  Razal: Pleasure unpoluted! What a way to improve your 2235 rating! One possible way to proceed DAL9000 after 20...Qh5 would be 21.Nxe6 with three powerful threat!...?
Dec-05-10  Llawdogg: This is truly a great game. I heard IM David Pruess lecture on it for an hour once. He played this game when he was only seventeen years old and a FIDE Master while Shipman was much older and an IM. He played the KG for a wide open creative game. In that vein, he sacrificed a knight on the fifth move of the game. He was down material, but had central control, piece development, and some momentum. However, he made a critical mistake on the ninth move by pushing the e pawn prematurely. He wished he had made a rook move or castled long instead. Nonetheless, he persevered for an impressive comeback victory.
Dec-05-10  Llawdogg: Pruess felt that Shipman's fifteenth move was a mistake. He removed the blockade of the e pawn by the bishop. Pruess immediately pushed the e pawn to free up the position and resume the attack. Then he sacrificed a rook on the next move but Ship didn't take it. Finally, he sacked the queen! Brilliant. This led to some great tactics. Pruess ended up with the bishop pair and an extra pawn against the rook. Ship was sunk. He resigned a few moves later.
Aug-26-11  azax: I got really excited when I saw the Knight sac on move 5 in the corner, and then less excited when I saw it was "just" a KG.
Aug-26-11  ColeTrane: wow! I did not expect this game to end in the bishop pair vs. the rook!

reminds me kinda when tal or fischer would chose a rook pair vs. the queen, and still pull it off!

Aug-26-11
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  al wazir: Doesn't black come out OK after 16...Bxe4 ? If 17. exd7+, then 17...Kd8 18. Bf3 f5 19. Rhe1 Nf6, and now if 20. Bg5, then 20...Bc5.
Aug-26-11  Oceanlake: As soon as I saw the Bd5 move, I looked at the comments. Didn't analyze, but I did remember that one should develop, especially when a gambit is involved. Also, Nimzowitsch, among others, wrote that pawns should be restrained.
Aug-26-11  Oceanlake: Black should resign after 34 b3.
Aug-26-11  abuzic: <al wazir: Doesn't black come out OK after 16...Bxe4 ? If 17. exd7+, then 17...Kd8 18. Bf3 f5 19. Rhe1 Nf6, and now if 20. Bg5, then 20...Bc5.>

16...Bxe4?? 17.exd7+ Kd8 18.Qxa7 and black will be forcemated.

Aug-26-11  Ghuzultyy: David Pruess is such an amazing player.
Aug-26-11  abuzic: <16.e6> may be 16.Nf6+, Bd3 or Bf3 are better here After <16.e6 fxe6 17.Ng5?> white could try the following combination:

17.Nd6+ Bxd6 18.Bxd6:
now if 18...Bxh1? (18...Nh6!) 19.Bh5 Qxh5 20.Qxe6+ Kd8 21.Be7+ Kc7 22.Qxd7+ Kb6 23.Bd8+:

<if 23...Kc5 24.Qd6+ will forcemate>;

<if 23...Kb5 24.Qd3+ will forcemate>;

<if 23...Ka6 white will have perpetual after 24.Qd3+ b5 <(24...Qb5 25.Qa3+ will forcemate)> 25.Qa3+ Kb7 26.Rd7+ Kc8 27.Rc7+ Kxd8 28.Qd6+ Ke8 29.Qe6+ etc>;

23...Rxd8 24.Qxd8+:

<if 24...Kc5 25.Qa5+ will forcemate>;

24...Ka6 25.Rd3:

if 25... Qc5 26.Ra3+ Qxa3 <(26...Kb5 27.Ra5+ will forcemate)> 27.bxa3. White has Q+5P vs. R+B+N+4P white has active pieces; can he survive or win?

if 25...Kb5 26.Rb3+ Kc5 (or ...Kc4) 27.Rc3+ Kb5 <(27...Kb4 28.Qd4+ Kb5 29.Rb3+ Ka6 30.Ra3+ Qa5 etc...)> 28.b4 Kxb4 29.Qd4+ Kb5 30.Rb3+ Ka6 31.Ra3+ Qa5 <(31...Kb5 32.c4+ will forcemate)> 32.Rxa5+ Kxa5 34.Qxa7+ and white will capture black's pieces one by one and win.

Aug-26-11
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  kevin86: White has a massive material advantage. The rook will go soon,and the king soon after.
Aug-26-11  tbentley: I wonder if black was waiting to resign until white played his fortieth move (hoping for a time blunder).
Aug-26-11  lemaire90: 28...b6 : Black preferes playing vs the bishop pair than vs bishop + knight, weird. Great game by Pruess ! I played this opening sacking a knight early on a few times and had good success !
Aug-26-11  abuzic: <18...Ngf6> black stands much better after 18...e5 or 18...0-0-0

<19.Rxd5> offers some counterplay; white had little choices to play here: 19.Nxe6 Bxe6 20.Rxd7 Bxd7 21.Bd3 Qg7 22.Qxc5 Nd5; 19.Bd3 Qg8 20.Rhe1 0-0-0 21.b4 h6.

<19...cxd5 20.Bd3 Qg8> 20...Qh6 keeps black's position better say after 21.Nxe6 Be3+ 22.Kb1 Bxf4 23.gxf4 Rg8; or 21.Bb5 0-0 22.Nxe6 Qg6 23.Nxf8 Rxf8.

<21.Re1 0-0-0> after this white takes the initiative. 21...Rc8 or 21...d4 would keep at least equal position.

<22.Nxe6> 22.Rxe6! initiates a strong attack: 22...Ne8 23.Rc6+ Nc7 24.Rxc7+ Kb8 25.Rxd7+ Ka8 26.Rxd8+ Qxd8 27.Ne6 Bb6 28.Nxd8.

Aug-26-11  karnak64: Wicked!
Aug-26-11  David2009: <abuzic: [snip] <22.Nxe6> 22.Rxe6! initiates a strong attack: 22...Ne8 23.Rc6+ Nc7 24.Rxc7+ Kb8 25.Rxd7+ Ka8 26.Rxd8+ Qxd8 27.Ne6 Bb6 28.Nxd8.> Very interesting analysis which I have not bottomed out.


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Here's a link to Crafty End Game Trainer to try to win as White with 22. Nxe6 (as in the game) or 22.Rxe6 http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t.... In the game line, 22...d4 seems stronger than 22...Re8. Here's a Crafty EGT link to the game position at move 24: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... White can win starting 24. Qxc5+! etc. The EGT follows the game defence until move 28 preferring 28...Rxe8 to 28...b6 <lemaire90: Black preferes playing vs the bishop pair than vs bishop + knight, weird.> The EGT prefers letting the b7 Pawn go and playing with R vs B+N: the ending should be won but the EGT puts up a stout resistance.

Aug-26-11  Lil Swine: i personally would have preferred a pun like "loose lips sink ships"
Aug-28-11
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  al wazir: <abuzic: 16...Bxe4?? 17.exd7+ Kd8 18.Qxa7>

Thanks. I see there are whole chapters of analysis of this position that I missed.

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