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Vasilios Kotronias vs Spyridon Skembris
Kavala (1986)
Caro-Kann Defense: Advance Variation (B12)  ·  1-0



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Aug-30-06  AlfieNoakes: Why can black not play 13 ...Qxc2 I can see that the queen can only escape down the c file but I can't see a trap?
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  jahhaj: <AlfieNoakes> Looks like 14.Bb2 with the idea of 15.Rc1 wins for White. Black can only rescue the queen by giving up the bishop.
Aug-30-06  EinZweiDrei: <supergrobi> Same.
Aug-30-06  RandomVisitor: Perhaps 15...Nbc6 is Black's last real chance to get back into this game.
Aug-30-06  monad: <podjevsky: If you play the game yourself you often know why you make certain moves and you know how to follow them up. It is seldom that a situation all of a sudden just pops up on the board.>

Couldn't agree more. I have asked for the preceding move at least to be shown, but so far no success -:(

In this game it would have stopped me from faffing around on the kingside, and I might even have come up with 19.c3 rather than 19.Nxe6. Maybe not.

Aug-30-06  gruntrush: alfienoakes - 13 Qxc2 doesn't work because of
14. c1-b2 , c2-c4
15. a1-c1 , c4-b4
16. d3xc5
and black ends up losing the bishop a little earlier.
Aug-30-06  zb2cr: Missed it, darn. Went for the 19. Nxe6 line mentioned above.
Aug-30-06  The17thPawn: Curses! Foiled again. Couldn't resist the Nxe6 line either
Aug-30-06  YouRang: Once again, I suffer from pawn blindness. Didn't even consider any pawn moves.

Good puzzle -- obviously, I for one, could benefit from more puzzles of this ilk.

Aug-30-06  mstover: I saw 19 c3 Bxc3 20 Nxe6 fxe6 21 Qxe6+ Rf7 22 Rf3 Ng6 23 Rxf7 Qxf7 24 Qc8+ Qf8 25 Qxc3

Rather roundabout way to attack the c3 bishop, and it only wins a pawn, and probably fails at some point.

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  kevin86: I missed this one---looks like a diversion to a double attack-knight on queen and queen on bishop. The finish is elementary-winning while up a piece for a pawn.
Aug-30-06  scorpius: Well, this one was definitely harder than yesterday's but still quite easy ;)
Aug-30-06  Boomie: After 19. Nxb4 axb4 20. Rxa8 Qxa8 21. Nxe6 fxe6 22. Qxe6+ Kh8 23. Qxe7, white is up 2 pawns which is materially better than a piece for two pawns as in the game. After 21. Nxe6, black can move the rook to c8. But white then has Ng5, attacking h7 and the rook. I'm not sure this is worse than the text line.
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  thegoodanarchist: How stubborn is Skembris? He loses a piece and later goes into a lost endgame, but still keeps playing. Must have had a break scheduled for the next day or something....
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  al wazir: <gruntrush: 13 Qxc2 doesn't work because of 14. c1-b2 , c2-c4>

15. bxc4 looks strong.

Black could have defended the ♗ with 18...Nc6 (either ♘), leaving it a retreating path after 19. c3.

Aug-30-06  jmw128: Well, I considered the Nxe6 lines or as <Boomie> points out the 19. Nxb4 axb4 20. Rxa8 Qxa8 21. Nxe6 fxe6 22. Qxe6+ but not Kh8? but instead Rf7. It protects the Knight and eliminates anymore checks for white. So, White only gets 2 pawns for the piece and no attack. Thus, c3 is clearly better.
Aug-30-06  Castle In The Sky: Missed it, so I went out, bought new glasses and then I saw it.
Aug-30-06  Chess Lou Zer: Not even close!
Aug-30-06  YouRang: <thegoodanarchist: How stubborn is Skembris? He loses a piece and later goes into a lost endgame, but still keeps playing...> Actually, I thought that the following play was instructive. Kotronias had to play carefully to avoid giving the piece back. Skembris gave it a good try, IMHO.
Aug-30-06  sfm: Those willing to put up stubborn resistance in hopeless positions will find themselves well rewarded over time. All the big ones include that talent too.
Aug-30-06  Chess Classics: Missed it completely. But I seem to be in good company, so I feel better =)


Aug-30-06  Marmot PFL: I lost a piece like that early in a game once also. Kept playing, which seemed to annoy my opponent because he got careless and let me trade all the pawns. I was trying to remember how to draw with R against R+B when much to my relief he offered the draw.
Aug-30-06  Marmot PFL: This is one of those that I didn't get just from looking at the diagram but found when playing over the moves. 18...a5 is a big hint.
Aug-31-06  czentovic: I enjoy your site immensely.Keep up the excellent work!
Sep-03-06  patzer2: White's 19. c3! initiates a winning discovered attack combination to win a piece. Black temporarily gets a couple of pawns as compensation, but it's not enough.
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