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| Jul-13-12 | | tonsillolith: <Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Kramnik vs Short, 1995.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KRAMNIK.
Your score: 44 (par = 32)
LTJ>
I'm confused. Does the Guess-the-Move game automatically post your performance? I keep seeing these pop up all over the place. |
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| Jul-14-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <tonsillolith> I like to post them on the games so as to publicly establish what my score was. G-T-M does not automatically post them.
LTJ |
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| Feb-19-16 | | dfcx: Material is even, black's f7 pawn is overloaded protecting both pawns. 22.Bxe6 fxe6 23.Qxg6 and black can't defend against Qh7+ without losing a piece. If black refuses the bishop, 23.Bxf7+ is even deadlier. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | jith1207: ..and Kramnik said, "Hey Nigel, I'll keep it Short". |
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| Feb-19-16 | | jith1207: This one is pretty straightforward to see the first move yet it all comes together only when you spot the help the second knight could come up with. All these pieces are just in perfect position as if someone set up the chess board for a puzzle. That's Vlad for you. |
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Feb-19-16
 | | agb2002: White has a knight and a bishop for the bishop pair. Black threatens ... c5 weakening e5 and opening the a8-h1 diagonal. The queen, bishop and knights look ready to attack the black king. This suggests 22.Nxe6. However, after 22... fxe6 23.Qxg6 Qxh4 24.Bxe6+ Kh8 White looks in trouble (25.Bxg4 Qxg4 26.Qxg4 hxg4 - + [2B vs N+2P]; 25.Rfe1 Qxf2+ 26.Kh1 Qh4+ 27.Kg1 Qh2+ 28.Kf1 Rf8+ wins for Black). Another option is 22.Bxe6 fxe6 (due to the threats 23.Bxf7+ and 23.Bxd7) 23.Qxg6: A) 23... Qe8 24.Qh7+ Kf8 25.Nf4
A.1) 25... Ke7 26.Ng6+ Qxg6 27.Qxg6 + - [Q+2P vs 2B]. A.2) 25... Bxe5 26.Ng6+ Qxg6 27.Qxg6 as in A.1 but Black will lose more material. A.3) 25... Nxe5 26.Nfxe6+ (26.dxe5 Rxd1 27.Ng6+ Qxg6 28.Qxg6 Rxf1+ 29.Kxf1 also wins) 26... Ke7 27.Qxg7+ Kd6 28.dxe5#. B) 23... Nxe5 24.Qh7+ Kf8 25.Nf4
B.1) 25... Bf6 26.Nfxe6+ Qxe6 (26... Ke8 27.Qg8+ Qf8 28.Qxf8#) 27.Nxe6+ Ke8 28.Qxh5+ followed by 29.Nxd8 wins. B.2) 25... Rd6 26.dxe5 Rxd1 27.Ng6+ Ke8 28.Nxe7 wins decisive material. B.3) 25... Rxd4 26.Rxd4 Rxd4 27.Nfxe6+ wins decisive material. C) 23... c5 24.Qh7+ Kf8 25.Nf4 looks similar to previous lines. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | diagonalley: ho hum... <diagonalley) started by taking the KP with the knight rather than the bishop... drat & double drat :-( |
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| Feb-19-16 | | Cybe: A little „better” (Black’s agony is longer) seems to be 23… Nf6. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | saturn2: The sacrifice on e6 was found after a short moment
Also the consideration that it is better to sacrifice the bishop instead of the knight was short, for the latrer controls h7 and f7. Also he can hop to e6 afterwars forking king and Rd8. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | whiteshark: Me thinks that Kramnik calculated a bit further. |
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Feb-19-16
 | | perfidious: <tonsillolith: I'm confused. Does the Guess-the-Move game automatically post your performance? I keep seeing these pop up all over the place.> That poster gets off on displaying his ascendancy over ordinary mortals by giving his supposed score on GTM, ad nauseam. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | patzer2: Even though the computers have no trouble quickly solving today's Friday puzzle with the demolition 22. Bxe6!  (+6.58 @ 27 depth, Deep Fritz 15), my brain didn't calculate it so precisely.I visualized 22. Bxe6 fxe6 23. Qxg6 (diagram below)
click for larger vieweasy enough. However, I didn't have enough of Kramnik's calculating ability or instinct to realize it's a clearly won position in the diagram above after 23. Qxg6 (+10.64 @ 28 depth, Komodo 9.3). A blunder (i.e. "not move") to avoid as White is 22. Nxe6?? (diagram below) 
click for larger viewwhen Black has a mating attack with 22...Qxh4 23. Rfe1 Qxf2+ 24. Kh1 Qh4+ 25. Kg1 Bxe5 (Deep Fritz 15 indicates it's mate-in-12) as play might continue 22. dxe6? Rd2! 27. Qe4 (27. Rxd2 Qxe1#) 27... Qh2+ 28. Kf1 Qh1+ 29. Ng1 Nh2#. Instead of 19...Ng5, which allows 20. e5  to  , the computers indicate Black can improve and keep the game level with 19...Nh7 = (0.00 @ 27 depth, Stockfish 6; 0.00 @ 26 depth, Komodo 8). Early in the opening, I like the Super GM preference 4...Bb4 as in A Giri vs Carlsen, 2016 or Navara vs W So, 2016 where <chesssalamander> has an amusing suggestion for continuing that game. |
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Feb-19-16
 | | Oxspawn: I like Nigel Short so I let him win.
22. Qxg6 |
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| Feb-19-16 | | patzer2: Deep Fritz 15 indicates that after 22. Bxe6! fxe6 23. Qxg6 , Black's best defense is immediately giving a piece back with 23... Nf6 (diagram below)
click for larger viewwhen play might continue 24. exf6 Qxf6 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26. Nf4! (diagram below) 
click for larger view26...Rd6 (26...Qxf4? 27. Nxe6+ ) 27. Ng6+ Ke8 28. Rfe1 c5 29. d5 Kd7 30. Ne4 Kc8 31. Nxf6 Bxf6 (+12.64 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 15). |
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| Feb-19-16 | | Patriot: This is the type of position where a lot of precise calculation is NOT necessary and is a big mistake to do so. I only wish I considered the one reply that has any hope of refutation and that is the game move. |
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Feb-19-16
| | perfidious: <patzer2: Even though the computers have no trouble quickly solving today's Friday puzzle with the demolition 22. Bxe6! (+6.58 @ 27 depth, Deep Fritz 15), my brain didn't calculate it so precisely.> Same here, to put it mildly.
<....I visualized 22. Bxe6 fxe6 23. Qxg6> As you say, not difficult at all--it was the finesses thereafter which proved elusive. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | AvidChessMan: Had it all the way up to 24...Kf8 - the f7 pawn was the key. 25. Nf4 is a good move; everything for black falls apart after that. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | kevin86: White forces a win with the piece-for- pawn sacrifice. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | JimNorCal: After Nf4, I'm still puzzled...will need to use an engine to find out why Black is lost. :( |
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| Feb-19-16 | | thegoldenband: Could Short have doubled rooks on the d-file a move earlier with 19...Rd7, with the idea of 20...Rad8 and perhaps 21...c5, and if 20. e5 Nd5 to block the a2-g8 diagonal? Or is that plan too slow/naive? Either way I must confess to not seeing the point of 19...Ng4, since the pressure on d4 doesn't pan out for Black after that move. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | mel gibson: Nice move by Kramnik,
I was thinking of taking that pawn with the Knight instead of the Bishop &
I was wrong. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | stst: The zig-zag irregular configuration on the h8 corner is best exploited by the two White Ns, others are hard to break through: 22.Nf4 ready galloping its way into the gravel terra.....
Now many variations possible, but all pretty similar ending in great threat to the Black monarch, give two here: (A)
22...........Rxd4 (seizing the opp. to counter?)
23.Rxd4 Rxd4 (powerful double R??)
24.Nf4xe6 (sac-oh-sac) fxe6
25.Bxe6 Kf8 (Kh8 corner? mate next by Q)
26.Qxg6 hardly any escape ... mate in about 2.
(B)
22.......Bh6 (threaten to reduce W's N threat)
23.Nxg6 then more variations, give one (B(i)) fxg6
24.Qxg6 Qg7 (tougher than Bg7, last little longer)
30.Bxe6+ Kh8
31.Qf5 if BxN, 32.hxB and if R7 escapes, 32.Nf7+, Black lost material... etc |
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| Feb-19-16 | | mikrohaus: <stst> I'm a lucky parent; none of my kids are hindered, except by their own self-limitations. So, I'm often reminded of my luck and see the problems other people face. Look up autism and notice things.
We love ChrisOwen. |
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| Feb-19-16 | | devere: 22.Be6! is fairly easy to see, and Black can resign right then if he feels like it. What was really hard to see was 21.Ne2!! in answer to 20...Rd7?, and Black is already lost. Great game by Kramnik. |
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Mar-27-23
 | | kingscrusher: Short work was made of Short - blimey! |
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