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Gyula Sax vs Ljubomir Ljubojevic
"Sacs and Violence" (game of the day Sep-18-2009)
Phillips & Drew Kings (1980), London ENG, rd 4, Apr-13
Sicilian Defense: French. Alapin Variation Haag Attack (B40)  ·  0-1



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Sep-18-09  think: Wow. Horrible opening choice by White. 5. Bd3 without Bc2 later dooms his DSB for the rest of the game. Moving his Queen to e2 and then e4 with no benefit? 12. Rd1? What happened here?
Sep-18-09  squlpt: Lol. Good game, and like the pun
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  sfm: With 14.-,hxg4! Black seems to have a won game, so 14.g4 could be the decisive mistake. After 15.h5 White must have expected only 15.-,Nf8. With 15.-,Ncxe5!! black demonstrates the weakness in White's position. Lovely ending move, bringing Bc8 into the game with more threats than White can handle.
Sep-18-09  Starf1re: I love but the games of the day have been awful all week. Why make a blunderfest GOTD?
Sep-18-09  Starf1re: Ugh I will try to provide a little insight into this monstrosity by highlighting the major mistakes.

5) d3 ???
better was b5+ or c4

8) Qe4 ??
better still b5

12) rd1 ???
Engine prefers re1 evaluating e1 approximately equal, rd1 about -1

13) h4 ???
13) ...h5 ??
Engine strongly prefers cxe4, initiating the attack

14) g4 ????

18) qf1 ?????? dropping a piece, from -3 to -7 eval. 18) ...b5?? Stronger was the immediate qxe5!

Sep-18-09  Olavi: The score is wrong. It must be 12.Re1, of course, as given everywhere else.
Sep-18-09  Garech: Yes, it is 12. Re1 - a gret game from Ljubojevic; I have made a youtube video about it using Fritz for analysis, if you are interested please check out


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  whiteshark: Thanks for the video, <Garech>. I really enjoyed watching it. :D
Sep-18-09  gilbav: It's my pun
Sep-18-09  gilbav: I love this game.
Sep-18-09  JohnBoy: Sorry <Starf1re> - this is a really fun game. Two true brawlers going at it. Sax tries to knock Ljubo off the board from move 1. L watches S swinging wildly, slaps the h5 thrust aside, and butchers his opponent.

As a martial artist, I can appreciate this. It is easy to panic or get flustered with someone coming at my face.

In pre-engine days, lots of lines were played that are now seen to be of questionable soundness. The idea was often to get the opponent off balance, rather than to play a perfect chess game.

CG needs to correct the score!

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  kevin86: I guess it's the pun and not the game that becomes the GOTD-in which case why not call it the POTD?
Sep-18-09  Funicular: I loved the pun. To reply to starf1re, i'll just quote some people

"Starf1re: I love but the games of the day have been awful all week. Why make a blunderfest GOTD?"

“Chess is a fairy tale of 1001 blunders [...] The blunders are all there on the board, waiting to be made”

(Savielly Tartakower)

“Without error there can be no brilliancy”
(Emanuel Lasker)

“What would Chess be without silly mistakes?”
(Kurt Richter)

Even though a game might be highly flawed, its always lovely to see how mistakes are punished. When you see stuff like b5, I think you can´t do nothing but smile. I know because i smiled when i saw it and im sure so many others did as well

Its just my opinion

Cheers from buenos aires

Sep-18-09  WhiteRook48: actually more like 8 million blunders
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  Domdaniel: There's nothing much wrong with 5.Bd3 -- the Canadian-Scottish-Israeli IM Danny Kopec used to prefer move orders like 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bd3 -- which was good for shock value, at least. But his basic idea was to build up a structure similar to the King's Indian attack, but with c3 and Bd3-c2 instead of g3 and Bg2.

White lost this one a little later on, though the Kopec system is always vulnerable to forceful play by black.

Premium Chessgames Member <gilbav: It's my pun> It certainly is and thanks for it. It's a good example of the rare triple pun.

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Sep-18-09  Jim Bartle: Talking Heads did a song with a very similar title: "Sax and Violins."
Sep-18-09  Starf1re: Earlier comments were wrong, scorecard has been corrected, please ignore. Good game better pun.
Sep-18-09  zdigyigy: GM Sax could probably simul the whole lot of us and not drop a point....
Sep-18-09  newzild: Like <Funicular>, I also smiled when I saw 18...b5 - but unlike <sfm>, not because it activates the Bc8. I smiled because of the threat 19...Bf6 or 19...Bd6, winning a piece.
Sep-18-09  TheBish: <Jim Bartle: Talking Head did a song with a very similar title: "Sax and Violins.">

Jim, you stole my thunder! I didn't know there was a song title with that name, but I'm not surprised. I was just going to suggest, an even better title would be "Sax and Violins."

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  perfidious: As to the move order used by Sax, the true Kopec system (as noted by Domdaniel and practised by Kopec since at least the mid 1970s) is probably safer than what went in this game.

White can get himself into a world of hurt if he plays to 'win' a pawn with 5.cxd4 cxd4 6.Qa4+ Nc6 7.Bb5 Bd7 8.Bxc6 Bxc6 9.Qxd4, leaving his opponent the happy choice of 9....Qxd4 or 9....Bxf3. Opening Explorer

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