chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
William Lombardy vs Ron Gross
"Gross Blunder" (game of the day Sep-17-2021)
67th US Open (1966), Seattle, WA USA, rd 10, Aug-24
Queen's Gambit Declined: Chigorin Defense. Modern Gambit (D06)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 815 more games of Lombardy
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can step through the moves by clicking the < and > buttons, but it's much easier to simply use the left and right arrow keys on your keyboard.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
Dec-04-06  Whitehat1963: Tuesday puzzle after 20...Bd6. (Player of the Day)
Dec-04-06  Sydro: Not quite as good if black plays 21...fxe6 21...Rxc1 is really bad.
Dec-18-11  King Death: Black committed seppuku in this one (not that 21...fe 22.Rc7 Bc7 23.Bb4 was going to be any fun to play out against a GM).
Feb-18-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Gross Blunder.
Sep-17-21  Brenin: This game is a QGA, as in quite gross aberration, not a QGD.
Sep-17-21  Muttley101: <Brenin>: This game is a QGA, as in quite gross aberration, not a QGD.>

The opening classification is correct, as it transposes to a position that would normally arise out of a Chigorin defence to the queen's gambit. If you want to be picky, it should be "Queen's gambit, Chigorin defence (by transposition)".

Sep-17-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: This marks twelve consecutive months (October 2020 through September 2021) where at least one of my puns was used for the GOTD.
Sep-17-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Teyss: The pun was begging to be made.

<FSR> You're on a roll! Patience is a virtue: 8 years an a half... Would say you have so many in the pipe they'll keep on coming now.

Even before 20...Bd6 Black's position is difficult: underdeveloped, B+N vs B pair, weak Qside. And after 21...fxe6 22.Bxb4 (better than Rxc7 immediately: wins a tempo) Be5 or Bf4 (not Rxc1? as in the game) 23.Rxc7 Bxc7: one P down and weak e6 P. SF gives +2

Sep-17-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Teyss: Should have been more specific in my subline: after 21...fxe6 22.Bxb4 Rxc1? 23.Rxc1 there is a cute twin pin on the d6 B.


click for larger view

23...Kd7 (else 24.Bxd6 or Rc8+) 24.Rd1 or 23...Ke7 24.Rc7+

Sep-17-21  Messiah: Worst pun ever.
Sep-17-21  Brenin: <Muttley101>: Thank you for the correction. When I was young and foolish, I regarded the QGD with some disdain as an old man's opening, and never took the trouble to learn it properly. Now that I'm old and foolish, i have neither the time nor the energy for that task, so it's good to have these subtleties pointed out.

However, as someone who has spent half a century being professionally picky, I'm still a little troubled. Clearly, a gambit can be declined and later accepted, but can it be accepted and later declined? If you offer me money, I can accept it and then have second thoughts and decline (or more accurately return) it, but if you offer me a meal, and I accept and eat it, it stays accepted and eaten. It's the same in chess: after 2 ... dxc4 that pawn goes back into the box and stays there, even if I give one back later. For that reason, I would prefer to see the qualification "(by transposition)" whenever one opening morphs into another. It's also a more accurate record of how individual players approach the openings.

Sep-17-21  AdolfoAugusto: <Messiah> Welcome back! Long time no see you my friend!
Sep-17-21  Messiah: <AdolfoAugusto: <Messiah> Welcome back! Long time no see you my friend!>

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep-17-21  RookFile: <Brenin: Clearly, a gambit can be declined and later accepted, but can it be accepted and later declined?>

I guess it was conditionally accepted, but later, there was a return to sender.

Sep-18-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <Teyss> This pun just barely made it in. The most puns chessgames allows you to have submitted at a time is 301, and I'm usually at that number, so whenever I submit a new pun, I have to retire at least one old one. Very recently, I almost took this one down, figuring that after 8 1/2 years it was never gonna make it.
Sep-19-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Teyss: <FSR> You have to be patient, 8 1/2 years is nothing in CGP timeframe (Cosmic Greater Plane, another dimension where time very slowly flows by).

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC