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|Oct-02-05|| ||who: <paladin> Fritz doesn't really have any improvements, though in these positions (where long term planning is involved) it probably isn't authoratative.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||Boomie: I couldn't find any winning lines for Capa. He could have improved in a couple of places before move 23, where his position is almost lost. But Tartakower missed the best continuation at move 22, which may have won the game.|
18. ♕e5+ ♔h7 19. h4 ♘d7 20. ♕g3 (0.56/13)
19. ♗e4 ♖ac8 20. a4 ♕b4 21. O-O= (-0.17/13)
22...♕d5 23. ♖d2 c5 24. dxc5 ♘xc5 25. ♘xc5 ♕xc5 (-1.48/13)
|Oct-03-05|| ||offramp: I have a score that gives 33.Qh7+. If Capablanca did not play 33.Qh7+ the he should have done:|
33.Qh7+ Kd6 34.Rh6+ Kc7 (The threat is Rg1+) 35.Re2 and I think white should win.
|Oct-03-05|| ||paul dorion: <offramp> after 33 Qh7+ Black plays
33... Kd8 and White is no better as in the game. Note that Qh4+ stops f5-f4 ideas by black|
|Nov-02-05|| ||NeoTheHeretic: I am an average chess player - can somebody suggest some sites to download e-books to study chess in depth ? Or if somebody has e-books can u mail them to email@example.com ?? plz do reply !|
|Nov-02-05|| ||paulalbert: For ebooks on chess go to www.chesscentral.com/cat/ebook.htm. Some good classics but you must pay for them. For a free ebook go to www.chessmaniac.com/chess_ebooks where you can get Edward Lasker's Chess Strategy for free. Although this is his original edition written in the 20s it's a good book, but certainly not definitive and of course out of date on openings discussions.Hope this is helpful Paul Albert|
|Mar-03-06|| ||fred lennox: 7...Ne4 is a move favored by Lasker and shows his penchant for open games and freedom from a rarther cramped positions. It would give white a slight advantage in central control. 8.Bxe7...Qxe7 9.cxd5...Nxc3 10.bxc3... exd5 11.Qxb3 Rd8...12.c4...dxc4 13.Bxc4...Nc6 14.Be2 In this game Tartakower shows the world 7...b6 which is an effective way to handle of the QB. Not to say it is better than what Lasker did, though it was a successful arsenal for every WC from Spassky to Kasparov. Tartakower had a penchant for spiky and dense positions. For example, 8.cxd5 is usually followed by...Nxd5. With exd5 the Bishop is of little use on b7. This creates a weak c pawn, but it is not easy for white to take advantage of this.|
|Jan-01-07|| ||ivanov90: On 21st move Tartakower could play 21...f5! with best game: 22.Nxg5 hxg5 23.Qxg5+ Kf7 24.h6 Rg8 25.Qh5+ Rg6! (better then 25...Ke7) 26.Rd2 Qa5!
Very interesting was 27...Rxg2! is the best move. 27...Rh8 loses: 28.Qg5+
a)28...Ke8 29.Qg7 ;
b)28...Kf8 29.Rh6 Qd5 30.Rf6+ Ke8 (30...Bf7 31.Rxf5 Qe6 32.Rf4 )31.Qg7 ;
c)28...Kd6 29.Rh6 with next Bxf5 or Bc4;
d)28...Kf6 29.Rh6 Raf8 30.Qg7+ ;
e)28...Kf7 29.Rh6 Qd5 (29...Rae8 30.g4!?) 30.g4 fxg4 31.Qg6+ Ke7 32.e4 Qb3 33.d5 Bxd5 34.exd5 Rae8 (34...Qxd5 35.Qg7+ Qf7 36. Re6+!!) 35.Qxc6 .
Variations of Lodewijk Prins and Max Euwe.
|Jan-02-08|| ||Ulhumbrus: On 20 Nxg5?? not 20...hxg5?? 21 Qxg5+ Kh8 22 Qh6+ Kg8 23 Qh7 mate but 20...Qa5+! 21 Ke2 Qxg5|
|Nov-11-08|| ||paladin at large: Tartakower rightly included this game among his best. A fighting draw against Capa at Capa's zenith - this was Capa's only draw with white at London 1922 where he went 11+ 0- 4=|
|Jan-18-11|| ||GrahamClayton: The first master game to feature 7...b6, hence the fianchetto of the c8-bishop is known as the Tartakower variation.|
|Dec-02-16|| ||RookFile: What a great fighting game, worthy of these two great players.|
|Jan-04-18|| ||Kapmigs: Fernando Arrabal, a Spanish-born playwright, filmmaker and poet,published a novel in 1988 called "The Tower Struck by Lightning". This novel focuses on the 24th and decisive game of a championship match between two antagonists who were politically and personally poles apart (something like Fischer vs.Spassky). This match was described in a New York Times book review as one which "pits anarchism against Marxism, intuition against icy ideology, human vagaries against scientific fanaticism." Not mentioned in the novel, however, is that this game was based on this particular Capablanca vs. Tartakower game although Arrabal slightly altered the opening and created a fictional conclusion to suit the purpose of his story.|
The fictionalized game reached the same position after Tartakower's 4th move. Then both games went the same from 5. Bg5 to 21.Qg3. Thereafter, Arrabal altered the ending by 21...f5, 22.Nxg5 hxg5; 23. Qxg5+ Kf7; 24. Bxf5 Qa5+ and white resigned by repeatedly smashing the chess clock on the chessboard "and then furiously attaced the black king as if he were trying to open up its head and dash its brains out."
|Jan-04-18|| ||Retireborn: Wasn't Arrabal a big supporter of Korchnoi? May have confused him with someone else.|
|Jan-04-18|| ||Kapmigs: Korchnoi and Arrabal were both in this chess documentary, The Great Chess Movie--
|Jan-04-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Lol "What is YOUR opinion, MASTER Karpov?"|
|Dec-08-18|| ||Honza Cervenka: 28.Ra1 could have been better.|
|Dec-08-18|| ||sudoplatov: I would say that Tartakover contribution here is the idea of ...Be6 at some point rather than ...Bb7. Posting the Bishop on e6 is generally better (in the QGD) than on b7. Compare with the games of Capablanca vs Lasker and Bernstein from 1921 and 1911 (or 1914>). Supporting ...c4 by ...b6 is fine in itself but the Bishop of|
ten stands better on e6 than on e7. Probably for different reasons, in Alekhine's Defense, White's QB stands better on e3 than on b2.
In a different move order, ...Be6 is useful in the Tarrasch Defence to the QG.
|Dec-08-18|| ||sudoplatov: I'd also add that Tartakover did add the idea of ...h6 preceding ...b6 so as not to be on the wrong side of a Pillsbury-Tarrasch 1895 type attack. Timing is everything.|
|Dec-09-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Wudda game! Still, according to SF Capablanca shouldn't have resigned (pardon the quote from StockFish but I couldn't have come up with the winning line myself):|
1) +1.39 (37 ply) 43.exf4 Rd5 44.Re1 Kd6 45.Rxe6+ Kxe6 46.Bc4 cxd4 47.f5+ Kd6 48.Bxd5 Kxd5 49.Rc7 Nf6 50.Re7 a4 51.Kd3 a3 52.Ra7 Ke5 53.Rxa3 Ne4 54.Ra2 Nc5+ 55.Ke2 Kxf5 56.Rb2 Kf4 57.Rb4 Ke5 58.Rxb6 Ne6 59.Kf3 Nc7 60.Rb8 Nd5 61.Re8+ Kd6 62.Re1 Kc5 63.Ke2 Nb4 64.f4 Nd5 65.Rc1+ Kd6
|Dec-09-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <CHC>
After 55... Kxf5
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I have L7 occupied atm.
|Dec-09-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <WPE: I have L7 occupied atm.>|
WDTM in HS? (What does that mean in human speak?)
|Dec-09-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Lomonosov 7.|
|Dec-10-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: d atm.
<WPE: I have L7 occupied atm.>
<CHC: WDTM in HS? (Wha
What does that mean in human speak?)>
<WorstPlayerEver: Lomonosov 7.>
Christ, this is like to trying to squeze blood out of a turnip. And "atm."? Automatic Teller Machine, atmosphere, at the moment or what? Anyway what's your point if I dare inquire? Are you trying to say it's a tablebase draw? White easily wins the b-pawn in the position shown in your diagram, why didn't you start from there?
|Dec-11-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <CHC>
You are right. I won't do it again.
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