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Geza Maroczy vs Karl Helling
"Old Geza" (game of the day Sep-20-2005)
Dresden (1936), Dresden GER, rd 8, Jun-13
Scandinavian Defense: Modern Variation (B01)  ·  1-0



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Sep-20-05  Gantastic: Why not the straightforward 15... gf?

My best guess is that black preferred the ambitious 15... f4, but didn't see 17. Nxg3 as a response to 16... Qh4, but this explanation doesn't feel convincing.

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  WannaBe: I am very surprised that white won this game.. if one look at 5. Be2, white has 'virtually' moved 1 piece, the tempo is on the black side.

25. Bf4!! I wonder how many exclams would Kmoch give this one? (Take my rook, please...)

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Gantastic, is an admission of defeat. The attack ends after that move, Black lags in development, suffers from isolated Queen side pawns, and has a material deficit (B + N vs. Rook). After 15...Nf4, Black doesn't have enough compensation for the material, but he does have better swindling chances (the "old geezer" has to find several good defensive moves).
Sep-20-05  PaulLovric: <TheAlchemist> Kako si?
Sep-20-05  khense: After 15...F4 I was ready to throw gold pieces on the board (I still have my money)
Sep-20-05  Runemaster: <Gantastic> I think your theory about 15...f4 is correct. It looks as though Black thought he was going to mate White, but overlooked the sequence beginning with 17. Nxg3 that enabled White to get out of trouble.

<WannaBe> 25. Bf4 was easier to play in this position as White was so far ahead in material that he could afford to give up a rook and still have an attack.

As for the position after 5. Be2, White was already a safe pawn up by then, so he was well compensated.

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  TheAlchemist: <PaulLovric> Dobro, hvala. I suggest we now get back to English, so we don't confuse everybody :-) Btw, where are you originally from?
Sep-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <PaulLovric> You have intrigued me. Why kibitz in Serbian to someone who hasn't even kibitzed on this page yet?
Sep-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: What is this pun all about actually? Should I just think of "old geezer"? That would be lame.
Sep-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Anyway, this is quite a nice game. we shouldn't always sympathize with the attacking player, because this quite nice defensive play by Maroczy.
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  TheAlchemist: <EmperorAtahualpa> He probably knew I would wind up here sooner or later :-)

Btw, that's not just Serbian, it's sort of universal for all the countries in the former Yugoslavia.

Sep-20-05  who: I think it's time to resign when you have sacd lots of material to get a kingside attack and then you realize you need more pieces so you play 19...Nd7. The knight is just too slow moving a piece.
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  kevin86: What a quirky game! Black's kingside attack melts away like an old snowman. Black's queen takes permanent residence on white's first row,but with little effect-except a passive stillborn rook. White then proceeds to round up and rope the black king. Excuse the many metaphors here,this game needed them.
Sep-20-05  chessic eric: It is not hard to improve on black's early play, as 4...,Nxc6 is better than the text. White's 10.Qe1 is a strange move, and the only rationale I can find is that in the event of several captures on f2 the white king won't end up on that square. But with the f3-knight and the c1-bishop ready to spring, I don't see any immedaite danger in Kxf2. 10.Bg5 or 10.h3 seems natural instead. 16.Ne4 prepares the excellent counter-sacrifice 17.Nxg3!, and the subsequent simplification extends white's overwhelming lead in development. In fact, white is has such better development that the potential loss of the a4-knight is of no concern at move 19. Also, the real strength of 26.Bf4 is to develop while preventing black's 26...,Qd1+, nullifying any black counterplay.
Sep-20-05  ajile: This opening looks ugly for Black. Nf6 seems to drop a pawn for negligible compensation. Does anyone have a better line for Black after 2...Nf6?
Sep-20-05  azaris: 3...c6!? was an early attempt to turn it into a gambit. Instead 3...Bd7 either regains the pawn or gives good compensation as in De Riviere vs Dubois, 1855.
Sep-20-05  chessic eric: <ajile> see the first section of my post above; this resembles a Smith-Morra gambit with colors reversed. In that opening white plays c3 after black has played exd4, and after black's dxc3, white plays Nxc3, developing two pieces to black's none for the price of a pawn.
Sep-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <TheAlchemist> Yes, I know, I should have written "Serbo-Croatian", right?

Jedan, dva, tri, chetri, pet, shast, set, ossam, devet, deset, or something like that. :)

Sep-20-05  PaulLovric: <EmperorAtahualpa; TheAlchemist:>:i am a croat, not yugoslav
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  TheAlchemist: <PaulLovric> I suspected that, but didn't want to insinuate anything. When did you move to Australia?
Sep-20-05  PaulLovric: <TheAlchemist> my father was an officer in the yugoslav army who escaped in the sixties for political reasons: his family were all Ustashi, etc. which i am proud of. he taught me chess a long time ago, it was part of his political education during his army days: wake up, two hours physical education, two hours weapons, drill, name it, even anti tank warfare, he became an officer who trained his own platoons. in the afternoon they had "free" choice of either chess or library or sleep. most people are taught the wrong series of events by people not from that area or by social scientists who think they know something from what is written in some history books. Even here at school they do a unit on ww2 and teach the kids the wrong information about nazi collaborators,"(Quote. Page 70): Ante Pavelic turned back to face rising sun. Although the spring of 1945 was already some weeks old, the Slovene countryside was still cold and mist hung in the valleys and hollows. Despite the temperature, Pavelic wiped sweat from his brow. The fleeing dictator was now on foot, having abandoned his car on the clogged road and joined the trong of refugees marching wearily towards Austria... ... (End quote)"

i often have argument with senior teachers about "content" of their programs but the people in charge have one thing most important in mind: a quiet classroom where some out-dated books are used to keep the kids working on question and pre determined answers, not reality: where real guest speakers can tell of real experience. i said to oe of my colleagues the other day who is doing a unit on greece, "do you have any greek friends or even know any greeks". the answer was, "no". i thought how can you tell a room full of kids what greek daily life is like when you have no idea yourself.

i was born in australia, i played and coached australian rules football, i go for australia in the cricket (do not mention the ashes) but when patrick rafter, an australian, played goran ivanisovic in the 2001 wimbledon final i passionatly barracked for him, i am a croatian. mum was a skippy.

got to get to maths class now. whole hour wasted here when really all i want to say is "first", because there is nothing else for me to offer... though e4 is best. dad thinks d4, he is wrong.

Sep-21-05  PaulLovric: strange sentence there i mean i barracked for goran
Jan-27-07  morphyvsfischer: Perfect example of defending against unsound attacks, which happens VERY often:) Of course 3...Bd7 and then 4...Nxc6 (this is not the two knights, where black actually has development) are better. 9 h3 is met by ...h5, which suddenly makes Black's attack justified. Black had to castle because of the threats of d4 after Qe1!

14...Bd4 15 c3

19...Qxa4 20 Qxe5 is good for white, and black has nothing at all. Nothing. Black had at least an *unsound* attack that would work against greedy players. 20...Qh4 and the endgame of 21 Qf4+ or the middlegame of 21 Be3! are both good for white. 26 Bf4 isn't the only move, or even the best, though it is definitely strong. And THIS player (Black) represented Germany in an Olympiad?????

Dec-01-08  WhiteRook48: Why 3. Bb5+? All it does is allow Black to stick a pawn in the Bishop's face and after 3...c6! 4. dxc6 bxc6, White shouldn't play 5. Bxc6 because of 5...Nxc6.
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  Rockall: Steve Gidding analyzed this game in his book "40 Essential Chess Lessons."

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