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John Finan Barry vs Frank Marshall
Cambridge Springs (1904), Cambridge Springs, PA USA, rd 3, Apr-28
Spanish Game: Schliemann Defense. Schönemann Attack (C63)  ·  0-1



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  Benzol: White cannot avoid 28...♖f6 and 29...♖h6#
Oct-22-05  LIFE Master AJ: White got crushed!

Typical (unsound) gambit play by White ... at least for that period of chess.

Nov-05-05  LIFE Master AJ: ONE ITEM OF NOTE:
When I first downloaded this game from the ChessBase website, they have the game ending after 26...Rf2.

After checking many different sources, most notably a copy of the original bulletins from this event, (which were originally obtained by my friend directly from the "John G. White" collection of the public library in Cleveland, Ohio); and also the original book of the tournament (by Reinfeld) - - - it becomes apparent that the game score here is CORRECT and the version that ChessBase has is WRONG!

There are good folks at ChessBase, but they will tell you that they have eliminated most of the mistakes from their game scores. Practically every game from this event (CS 1904) that I have worked on contained an error of some type.

If you are interested in more information on this event, please see the following website, (In my own opinion, one of the finest sites on the net, and one of the few devoted to just one tournament!)

Nov-24-05  LIFE Master AJ: If you are interested, this game is annotated on my website. See my page on Marshall, (; for more details.
Jul-09-06  MUG: <LMAJ> Cheers for the link. I notice you have said that for your annotations to this game you studied this variation of the Schliemann Defence for over a month(!) What were your conclusions? Is 7.Nc3 really a playable sacrifice? I notice that it is still tried at quite a high level even today:

A Kunte vs R Eames, 2001

…but I find it had to believe that White could get adequate compensation for the piece. I think it is perhaps better for White to avoid these positions altogether with 5.Bxc6 dxc6 6.Nxe5.

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  suenteus po 147: Isn't the final position zuzwang for white?
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  Phony Benoni: <suenteus po 147> Technically, no. Zugzwang implies that a player would have a defensible position were it not his move. Here Black has decisive threats regardless of whose move it is.

By the way, White can avoid immediate mate with ideas like 28.Bc5 and 29.Rf2. He will lose horrendous amounts of material, though.

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  suenteus po 147: <Phony Benoni> I see. I always forget the second half of the zugzwang rule. I guess white is just in "zug." :)
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  NM JRousselle: Once again, the piece is better than 3 pawns.
Apr-05-13  LIFE Master AJ: <Mug> I think its quite playable ... I am about to post a new web page - that takes an extremely in-depth look at this opening.
Apr-05-13  LIFE Master AJ: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.d4 fxe4 5.Nxe5 Nxe5 6.dxe5 c6 7.Nc3 cxb5 8.Nxe4 d5 9.exd6 Nf6 10.0-0 Nxe4 11.Qh5+ g6 12.Qe5+ Kf7 13.Qxh8 Nf6 14.Bg5 Bf5 15.Rfe1 Qxd6 16.Rad1, Line.

I think White has good play ... if anyone can show a major improvement here, I really would love to see it.

BTW, the first 10-12 moves are all out of the latest "Power-Book" ...

Dec-08-15  rainingpieces: I like how instead of grabbing pawns on g2 and c2, Black keeps activating his pieces and gets White into trouble
Feb-25-19  zydeco: The key point is 16....Rg4! White is threatening to win back his piece with 17.d7+ Bxd7 18.Bxf8 but here it fails to 18....Re4+ 19.Kf1 Bb5+ 20.Kg1 Kxf8.

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