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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Frank Marshall
Capablanca - Marshall (1909), New York, NY USA, rd 2, Apr-21
Spanish Game: Schliemann Defense. Dyckhoff Variation (C63)  ·  1-0

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Jun-27-03  coke934: anyone who is going throw joes game down the list knows i keep saying the e5 sq. is improtant in the ruy lopez if you give it up your endgame isnt as good, i dont play the ruy lopez if im wrong tel me but im sure im right, the goring gambit lives!
Apr-30-06  patzer2: I wonder if Marshall choked on his cigar when he saw Capa play the double mating attack threat 21. f6! After 21...Qh6 22. Qxh6 Capa gets more than enough pawns to win.
Apr-30-07
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  IMlday: 12..Qc7 looks fairly random; good place to look for an improvement maybe.
May-04-07  Whitehat1963: Capablanca abuses his favorite whipping boy in the Opening of the Day. What happens if dxc3 (en passant)?
May-04-07  micartouse: <Capablanca abuses his favorite whipping boy in the Opening of the Day.> lol Or was that Bernstein? Or Nimzowitsch? Or Bogoljubov?

I'm guessing 13 ... dxc3 14. dxc3 and White gets to develop his bishop more quickly and keeps his pawn structure intact. Maybe that's why Marshall preferred 14 ... dxc4.

May-06-07  Whitehat1963: <Or was that Bernstein? Or Nimzowitsch? Or Bogoljubov?> If you look at their respective records against Capablanca, you'll see that Marshall was on the receiving end a lot more often than anyone (except maybe Juan Corzo, and I'm not certain of that).
May-06-07
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  keypusher: <whitehat1963> Yes, but Marshall managed to beat Capablanca a few times, something Bernstein, Bogoljubov and Nimzowitsch combined never did even once.
May-14-08  Ulhumbrus: 4 Nc3 defends the e4 pawn (which the Black f pawn has just attacked) with a developing move (by the QN)
May-14-08  RookFile: 1.e4 frees diagonals for the queen and bishop.
May-14-08
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  Cinco: Schliemann Defense seems like a poor choice against Capablanca, perhaps black would have had more succes with the....Marshall Gambit :-)
Sep-19-08  CapablancaFan: <Cinco> Actually, I did hear about Frank playing some novelty against Capa almost ten years later, did it work? LOL.
Aug-11-09  MorphysMojo: Marshall paid a very high price for his centralized Q. It's as if he intentionaly threw away his lead in development which was much needed due to his pawn minus. Capablanca found great play extending his advantage with almost every move from about move 14 if not ealier.
Aug-11-09  ounos: 12. ...Qc7 seems pointless. I would automatically play 12. ... c4. Anything wrong with that??
Nov-14-13  poorthylacine: To CapablancaFan:
really it did not work, but it worked later for Spassky fighting Tal, LOL.
May-10-17
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  NM JRousselle: 12... Qc7 has to be the beginning of the end. 12... c4 13 Be2 Qe8 seems to offer Black decent compensation for the pawn.

If 14 Qf3, Qe5 15 g4 Bd8 followed by Bc7.

Jan-30-20  Gaito: Instead of 4...Nf6, Black often plays the sharpest line 4...fxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Nxe5 dxe4 7.Nxc6 Qd5 with tactical complications that might have suited Marshall's style. In a famous blitz game Fischer vs. Matulovic, Herzeg Novi 1970, Black essayed 7...Qg5?! which was easily refuted by Bobby Fischer after 8.Qe2 Nf6 9.f4! Qxf4 10.d4! Fischer vs Matulovic, 1970
Jan-30-20  Gaito: The game has some annotations, presumably by Capablanca himself in a very old book of 1923 in Spanish, edited by J. A. Gelabert from Cuba. We read that "12...Qc7? was a poor move, and 12...c4 was better, though it would have weakened Black's central pawn structure".
Jan-30-20  Gaito: 17...Be7? was a pointless move. Some alternatives, suggested in the aforementioned book were: 17...Bc6 or even 17...Bd8 (preventing Re1). Still another possible move was 17...Qe2, e.g. 18.Bg5 Qf3 to be followed by ...Bc6.
Jan-31-20  spingo: < Cinco: Schliemann Defense seems like a poor choice against Capablanca, perhaps black would have had more succes with the....Marshall Gambit :-)>

There are lots of Marshall Gambits, but the famous pawn offer in the Spanish used against Capablanca is the Marshall Attack.

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