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Jacques Mieses vs Georg Marco
The Hague (1921), The Hague NED, rd 8, Nov-03
Center Game: Accepted (C21)  ·  1-0

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Aug-16-09  mandy64: 0-1???
Aug-16-09  Swindler: Maybe his cellphone rang? ;)
Aug-16-09
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  whiteshark: Nothing seems more natural. :D

The Hague 1921 photo: http://www.rogerpaige.me.uk/histori...

Aug-16-09
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  Phony Benoni: Di Felice, in <Chess Results 1921-1930>, gives this as a win for White. I've checked a few databases online, and it's generally given 0-1 as here, but ChessLab says 1-0.

I'm sure it should be 1-0, but wish there was some contemporary account to back that up. Big online databases will usually just copy each other without checking, but it's good to be sure.

Aug-16-09
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  whiteshark: <Phony Benoni> The crosstable of <The Hague 1921> said Marco scored vs Mieses: http://www.rogerpaige.me.uk/tables1... (scroll down)
Aug-16-09
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  whiteshark: So we have a very fine starting situation, at least. Can we agree on that?
Aug-16-09
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  Phony Benoni: <whiteshark> Looks like we have duelling crosstables as well as duelling databases. Here's another version of the crosstable showing Mieses the winner: http://www.thechesslibrary.com/file...

We're going to have to get a copy of the tournament book to clear this up definitively.

Aug-16-09
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  Phony Benoni: <whiteshark> My apologies. I have got to break that habit of deleting messages when I want to revise them.
Aug-16-09
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  whiteshark: <Phony> In my only Dutch chessbook, "Max Euwe", is also a crosstable and it gives Mieses scored vs Marco, so that

6th Mieses (4 points) and
7th Marco (3 points)

as given in your <second last> post.

:D

Aug-16-09
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  Calli: Its 1-0 because otherwise the crosstable doesn't come out right. We get Marco with 4 points as on CG http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

Unless someone has an XT where Mieses and Marco have changed places, I don't see how this game is not 1-0.

Aug-16-09
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  Pawn and Two: The crosstable in, "Akiba Rubinstein: The Later Years", shows Mieses as the winner in this game.

Mieses scored 3 wins (Euwe, Marco & Yates) and 2 draws (Maroczy & Tartakover) for a total of 4 points, and a 6th place finish.

Marco scored 2 wins (Euwe & Yates) and 2 draws (Davidson & Kostic) for a total of 3 points, and a 7th place finish.

The book states that reference material used included the tournament book, "The Hague 1921" by B. Kagan.

Aug-17-09
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  Phony Benoni: <Calli> <Pawn and Two> OK, that sounds definite to me. A reference from the tournament book trumps everything.

I'll submit a correction, and check back in a year or two.

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