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| Apr-06-06 | | clausantos: I get this one. Unusual at thursday... |
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| Apr-06-06 | | BipolarChessorder: I saw 38.Qf6+ etc. but was wondering about 38.Rd5. If 38...Bxe3+ 39. Kh1 there's no (immediate) perpetual and I can't see anything for Black. White still has the d7 pawn and 39. ...Bxd5 40. Qxd5 the attack is dead. Thoughts, anyone? |
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Apr-06-06
 | | al wazir: <BipolarChessorder: I saw 38.Qf6+ etc. but was wondering about 38.Rd5. Thoughts, anyone?> See kibitzing on first page. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Chess Prodigy: 4/4 this week...I did Qxf8+ instead of Qd4+, which is a winning move, but not as winning |
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| Apr-06-06 | | dhotts: Why even do 38.Qf6+, why not immediately 38.d8=Q! and have two Queens on the board instead of 1 in jeopardy? |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Jim Bartle: It's not a check. Black could play 38...Bxe3+ followed by Rg2+. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | dakgootje: <dhotts: Why even do 38.Qf6+, why not immediately 38.d8=Q! and have two Queens on the board instead of 1 in jeopardy?> Because of 38. d8=Q Bxe3+ 39. Qxe3 Rg2+ and there is a perputual because of 40. Kh1 Rxb2+ 41. Kg1 Rg2+ et cetera |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Goumindong: <doglikegroove> Not only does that allow the Rg2..Kh1..Rb2..Kg1 perpetual check, but black can also play Rxe6 which evens up the board if white takes the bishop, though i dont know if he can win from there. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | aazqua: Why not Rd5? At least make the finish interesting. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Goumindong: <aazqua> Rf1 also seems to work to me. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | goldenbear: Hmmm. I thought it was Rf1. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | goldenbear: Rf1, with the intention of giving up the queen after Bxe3+. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Marmot PFL: <LIFE Master AJ: The game score here is incorrect.> Thank you, that makes more sense. I am always surprised how different versions of the same game exist. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | OBIT: <goldenbear> 38. Rf1? Bxe3+ 39. Qxe3 Rg2+! (not 39...Rxe3?) 40. Kh1 Rf2+! draws |
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Apr-06-06
| | OBIT: So, what's the final verdict? Four winning plans? (1) 38. Qf6+
(2) 38. d8=N
(3) 38. Rd5
(4) 38. Nf5
Gee, how could anybody miss this one? :) |
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| Apr-06-06 | | apawnandafool: I missed it. :( |
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| Apr-07-06 | | goldenbear: <OBIT>Thanks. I never considered that. |
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| Apr-07-06 | | Goumindong: <OBIT> D8=N does not work, it allows the infinite check. <goldenbear> No, 38. Rf1..Bxe3 39. RF2!? Now white has the escape he needs, and can threaten the other rook, this removes blacks checkdraw and still threatens the promotion, after a couple moves, white will attain mate or a clear position and material advantage. |
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| Apr-07-06 | | Goumindong: Rd5..bxe3, the infinite check is gone, but white isnt gaining any advantage. |
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Apr-07-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: <zerok>, thank you for running my idea through your computer. Did the computer analysis give a reason for not playing my 37.Nxh6? It picked 37.d8/Q instead. |
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| Apr-07-06 | | LIFE Master AJ: Ya'll are still struggling with an incorrect/incomplete game score. |
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Apr-07-06
| | OBIT: <Goumindong> There are a fair amount of posts here addressing the 38. d8=N line, and I think we eventually got it right. There is no perpetual check. <An Englishman>I looked at 38. Nf5 also, and it did seem like you might as well queen right away (38...Rxe6 39. d8=Q). Your move may also work, but it didn't look too clear. |
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| Apr-28-06 | | patzer2: The key to solving the previous daily puzzle (38?) in the diagram below is avoiding the obvious pawn promotion 38. d8=Q??, which enables Black to swindle a clever draw. 
click for larger view[White to move (38 ?)]
Not 38. d8=Q?? Bxe3+ 39. Qxe3
Rg2+ 40. Kh1 Rd2+ 41. Kg1 Rg2+ 42. Kh1 Rd2+ 43. Kg1 Rg2 = (draw by perpetual check). But instead White solves the puzzle and wins with
<38. Qf6+!> 38... Rxf6 39. d8=Q+ Rf8 40. Qd4+  (diagram below) when Black is forced to move his Bishop to g7 and no longer threatens the perpetual. 
click for larger view[Black to move (40...?) and lose. Position after 38. Qf6+! 38... Rxf6 39. d8=Q+ Rf8 40. Qd4+] If 40...Kg8, then 41. Qc4+ (double attack) 41...Kh8 42. Qxe2 wins easily. So Black must play 40...Bg7 when 41. Qd3! (the actual game continuation as provided by <LIFE Master AJ> on a previous page) 41...Bf3 42. Rd2 (diagram below ) secures the won position and ends Black's hope of swindling a draw. 
click for larger view[Position after 38. Qf6+! Rxf6 39. d8=Q+ Rf8 40. Qd4+ 41. Qd3! Bf3 42. Rd2 ] |
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| Apr-28-06 | | patzer2: Here's an instructive position from the game score provided by <LIFE Master AJ>:
click for larger view[White to move (42?) after 38.Qf6+ Rxf6 39.d8Q+ Rf8 40.Qd4+ Bg7 41.Qd3 Rff2.] Solution: White played 42. Qxe2! when play might have continued
42...Rxe2 43. Rd8+! Bf8 44. Rxf8+ Kg7
45. Raf1! . |
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| Jun-02-15 | | zydeco: 15....e5 is definitely a strange decision. 15....cxd5 seems mandatory. |
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