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Mar-08-05
 | | ray keene: all i can say for sure is that
1 miles and i prepared the opening together
2 we concluded that a q trade gave black a good position
3 that the very variation turned up in the game
4 that miles varied from our analysis and lost quickly i have no firm knowledge of any fixes but of course rumours were rife when miles lost so fast |
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| Dec-29-05 | | trolls: You teasin' us now...? sorry.
Mile's worst game?
And it's got a lot of...sorry.
ROCK YER BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODEEEE!!! |
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| Dec-21-15 | | nnnnnnnn: Not sure it was fixed. Henley beat Short convincingly in that same tournament too. Here's another Miles messing up of the opening:M Knezevic vs Miles, 1986 Here he was lost on move 9!! Don't even understand why he went on playing. |
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Dec-22-15
 | | perfidious: <Here's another Miles messing up of the opening:M Knezevic vs Miles, 1986 Here he was lost on move 9!! Don't even understand why he went on playing.> For, perhaps, the same reason Black played on in Nunn vs Kiril D Georgiev, 1988 while quite lost. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | Howard: According to Browne (in his CL article), an active volcano temporarily disrupted play during this round. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | HeMateMe: I love the song, but serious pun prigs (you KNOW who you are) might argue that this isn't really a pun. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | MissScarlett: Given the imputation (by others, of course) that the game was fixed, evidently it is. |
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| Feb-22-22 | | optimal play: Is 8...Qxd1+ that much better than 8...Nd7
Exchanging the Queens so early would certainly change the complexion of the game but I'm not sure it gives black that much of a better game. The games looks equal until 18...Ba5?
Instead 18...Bxd5 keeps an even game.
18.Kb1 signalled Rc1 which Miles apparently overlooked. After that Henley had the advantage and Miles game went downhill. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | offramp: <MissScarlett: Given the imputation (by others, of course) that the game was fixed, evidently it is.> Very sad to hear that Miles had various limbs amputated during this tournament. I hope that the excised extremities live on, happily, in vats of electrolytic fluid, communicating to higher intelligences. |
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| Feb-22-22 | | Granny O Doul: @offramp: Bloodied and unboughed?
@nnnnnnnn: Re Henley vs. Short, well, I'm convinced, but others here may insist on a bit more evidence. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | saffuna: <The ease of White's victory spawned rumours at the time that Miles was bought off.> There was dirty laundry? That's the heart of the matter? Just take it easy, maybe it was just one of these nights. |
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| Feb-22-22 | | nalinw: Nice Saffuna ..... and a very good pun - perhaps for unsavoury reasons .... |
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| Feb-22-22 | | nalinw: The engine here has no problem with 8 ... Nd7 |
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| Feb-22-22 | | goodevans: <nalinw: The engine here has no problem with 8 ... Nd7> Indeed according to the Lichess Master's Database this is the more common move. Miles came out of the opening fine and things only turned pear-shaped in the middle game. If he really did throw the game then this is where he did it which he could just as easily have done after following the 8...Qxd1+ line. We do like a conspiracy theory though, don't we? |
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Feb-22-22
| | MissScarlett: I'm sure Ray will be happy to vouch for Miles' rectitude. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | FSR: Not Miles' greatest performance, but that hardly proves that the game was fixed. If volcanic activity disrupted the round (as <Howard>, citing Walter Browne's account, states) that could have disturbed Miles' thought processes. And certainly 8...Nd7 was not the cause of Black's downfall. ChessBase Online shows that 8...Nd7 was played in 59 games with White scoring 54.2%. Keene's preference 8...Qxd1+ was played in 36 games with White scoring 63.9%. The engines also seem to prefer 8...Nd7, with Stockfish 14.1 giving 0.00 (50 ply). As <optimal play> said, 18...Ba5? was Black's fatal mistake. It was necessary to kill the monster knight with 18...Bxd5, with approximate equality. This "pun" is apparently an insinuation that this game was thrown. Chessgames' use of such a pun, absent compelling evidence of that, seems very inappropriate and unwise. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: The pun seems to have more to do with the album "The End of the Innocence," by rock musician Don Henley, as alluded to by <HeMateMe>. The fact that it may also be interpreted as a smear against the players could be just an unfortunate coincidence. |
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| Feb-22-22 | | LoveThatJoker: I will stay out of the discussion regarding whether GM Henley won this last round as a result of bribery/collusion. Rather, my focus is on the fact that he won twelve games (out of twenty-five, while losing only two) in the event: he was definitely in top form, considering the strength of the opposition. Lastly, if any fellow kibitzer finds this game/thread uninspiring; then I recommend that they check out not only today's puzzle of the day, but also the page belonging to the winning player, Zvulon Gofshtein. My opinion is that that selection is more in line with <CG>'s higher aims. LTJ |
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Feb-22-22
| | HeMateMe: Look, Henley was just dying to get off. I think Miles should have stayed out of the fast lane... |
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Feb-22-22
 | | Check It Out: You guys need to take it easy... |
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Feb-22-22
| | HeMateMe: Some of these chessplayers are desperados, hard ones. |
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Feb-22-22
 | | scormus: I prefer the interpretation that the pun has more to do with Don Henly's song. I don't know a whole lt about Tony Miles, but I never had any feeling that he was the sort to fix a game. Quite the reverse in fact. But I did have the feeling that he was rather headstrong, and if he got it intovhis head that he thought there was a better move than the one discussd wth his mentor, he'd play it. And to hell with the consequences. |
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| Feb-22-22 | | whiteshark: We should definitely start an investigation committee here. ;) A question for <Ray Keene>: Didn't you talk after the game about why he had deviated from your preparation? <4 that miles varied from our analysis and lost quickly> I don't see the direct connection here: between the deviation on move eight and the concealing mistake on move 18, I wouldn't call all the moves 'compelling'. <Check It Out: You guys need to take it easy...> Absolutely! |
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| Feb-22-22 | | Saniyat24: The Lad who came first in the First Lady's Cup...! |
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Feb-22-22
| | HeMateMe: Miles probably had to head to the Sunset Grill for a pint or two, after this one. |
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