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Jesus Nogueiras vs Anthony Miles
3rd Copa Gobernador (1994), Linares MEX, rd 3, Sep-??
English Opening: King's English. General Variation (A21)  ·  1-0

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Oct-30-04
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  Eggman: A nice win!

25.e5 is decisive: if 25...♘dxe5 then 26.♘xe5 dxe5 27.♘b5+ ♔c6 (27...♔e6 and 27...♔d7 both lose to 28.♕g4+) 28.♕f3+ ♔b6 29.♖xf7, etc.

In the final position Black resigns because he can't stop 33.♖d8+ ♘xd8 34.♘d6#!

Jun-03-18  ChessHigherCat: I think I was a bit hasty with my line but I think this wins a piece:

25. e5 dxe5 26. d6+ Kxd6 27. Nb5+ Kc6 28. Nxa7+ Kc7 29. Nxc8 exf4 30. Nxe7 Kd8 31. Nd5

Jun-03-18  RKnight: Less obvious to me is how to play if black plays 26... Bxd6 in the game line (instead of 26... Kxd6). Perhaps 27 Rxf7 Qxf7, 28 Ng5 Qg8 (multiple forks with other Q moves), 29 Nb5+ Kb1, 30 Nxd6. Is there something more convincing?
Jun-03-18  Walter Glattke: 25.-Bxe5 26.Nb5+ wins. 25.-Nxe5?? 26.RxQ
Jun-03-18  Walter Glattke: Oops, 25.e5 de5 26.d6 Bxd6? 27.Nb5+ Kb8
28.Rxf7 Qf7 29.Nxd6 wins. 27.-Kc6 28.Ba5 Nb6 29.Qe4+ Nd5 30.Qxd5+ Kd7 31.Rxf7+ wins, 27.-Kd8 28.Rf7 Qxf7 29.Nxd6 wins.
Jun-03-18  Walter Glattke: 27.-Kb6 similar, 28.Rxf7 Qd8 29.Nxd6
Jun-03-18  mel gibson: I saw that pawn push in under 5 seconds.
I knew it would be good.

Stockfish 9 says:

25. e5

(25. e5 (e4-e5
d6xe5 ♖f4xf7 ♕f8xf7 ♘f3xe5 ♕f7-f5 ♘e5xd7 ♖c8-e8 ♕e2-e6 ♕f5xe6 d5xe6 b7-b6 ♘c3-b5+ ♔c7-b7 ♖g1-g7 a7-a6 ♘b5-c3 ♔b7-c6 ♗d2-f4 b6-b5 ♘d7-f6 b5xc4 ♘f6xe8 ♖h8xe8 ♖g7xh7 ♗e7-d6 ♗f4xd6 ♔c6xd6 ♖h7-a7 ♔d6xe6 ♖a7xa6+ ♔e6-f5 ♖a6-c6 ♖e8-e1+ ♔c1-c2 ♖e1-h1 ♖c6xc5+ ♔f5-e6 ♘c3-b5 ♖h1-h2+ ♔c2-c3 ♖h2-h3+ ♔c3-b4 ♖h3-h2) +6.73/32 25)

score for White +6.73 depth 32.

Jun-03-18
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Bit too easy for a Sunday--in other words, I solved it. Finished the week 6/7. BUT. Flubbed Tuesday. Unbelievable. Flubbed Tuesday.
Jun-03-18
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  al wazir: I got 25. e5 dxe5 26. d6+. I didn't think black would play 26...Kxd6.

After 26...Bxd6 27. Nb5+ Kb8 28. Nxd6 Qxd6 29. Rxf7 Rce8, black has a little counterplay, but not enough to make up for a ♗ vs. ♙ disadvantage.

Jun-03-18
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  Dionysius1: I saw it as far as 27 ♘b5+, but though I get the logic, 28 ♗a5 was beyond me without moving the pieces around, or maybe even then. And I might have played 25 e5 in real life but I would have had no idea that it was mate in two from 32. ♕e6 . That was a heck of a long way for anyone to see.
Jun-03-18  ferrabraz: Another way was 29. Qe5! Qh6 (to stop 30. Rf6; 26... Ne5 27. Ne5#) 30. Qe6! closing the coffin: mate follows with 31. Na7
Jun-03-18  et1: As previously noted 26 Bd6 deserves inspection and alwazir found it. Thank you.
Jun-03-18
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  agb2002: White has an extra pawn.

The knight on f7 is pinned and Black only defends e5 twice. This suggests 25.e5:

A) 25... dxe5 26.d6+

A.1) 26... Bxd6 27.Nb5+ Kc6 (else 28.Rxf7 Qxf7 29.Nxd6 followed by 30.Nxc8 winning a piece) 28.Qe4+ Kb6 29.Rxf7 wins a piece (29... Qxf7 30.Nxd6 Q moves 31.Nxc8+).

A.2) 26... Kxd6 27.Qd3+

A.2.a) 27... Ke6 28.Qd5#.

A.2.b) 27... Kc6 28.Qd5+ followed by 29.Rxf7 wins a piece.

A.2.c) 27... Kc7 28.Nb5+

A.2.c.i) 28... Kb8 29.Rxf7 Qxf7 30.Qxd7 Qxf3 (30... Rhd8 31.Nxe5) 31.Qxe7 with two pieces for a rook and a pawn.

A.2.c.ii) 28... Kd8 29.Nxe5 Nfxe5 (29... Qe8 30.Nxf7+ wins) 30.Rxf8+ Rxf8 31.Qxh7 looks winning.

A.3) 26... Kb8 27.dxe7 Qxe7 28.Re4 wins a piece for a pawn.

B) 25... Ndxe5 26.Nxe5 dxe5 27.Rxf7 Qxf7 28.Qxe5+

B.1) 28... Bd6 29.Nxb5+ followed by 30.Nxd6 wins material.

B.2) 28... Kd8 29.Qxh8+ wins a piece.

B.3) 28... Kd7 29.Rg7

B.3.a) 29... Qf1+ 30.Kc2 Rhe8 31.Qe6+ Kc7 (31... Kd8 32.d6 Qf8 33.Rxe7 Rxe7 34.Bg5 looks winning) 32.Rxe7+ Rxe7 33.Qxe7+ Kb8 (33... Kb6 34.Qd6+ Ka5 35.Nb1+ Ka4 36.b3#) 34.d6 seems to win.

B.3.b) 29... Qf8 30.d6 as above.

B.4) 28... Kb6 29.d6 (29... Bd(f)8 30.Qxh8 + -; 29... Bf6 30.Nd5+ and 31.Nxf6 + -) 29... Bh4 30.Na4+ Ka6 (30... Kc6 31.Qe4+ and Qxh4) 31.Nxc5+ Rxc5 (31... Kb6 32.Na4+ Ka6 33.Qa5#) 32.Qxc5 and White emerges two pawns ahead.

Jun-03-18  Walter Glattke: I found an answer to Stockfish with not 27.-Qf5, but 27.-Nxe5: 28.Qxe5+ Kb6 29.d6 Qxc4 30.dxe7 Qd4!? 31.Qe6+ Kc7 32.Nb5+, and white wins in a Hollywood style!
Jun-03-18
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  takchess: My intuition said an exchange sac on F7. I should not listen to my intuition.
Jun-03-18  malt: <takchess: My intuition said an exchange sac on F7. I should not listen to my intuition.> I went for 25.R:f7 removing an e5 defender
25...Q:f7 26.e5 de5
(26...N:e5 27.Nb5+ Kb8 28.N:e5 de5 29.Q:e5+ Ka8 30.Nc7+ R:c7 31.Q:h8+ )

27.N:e5 Qf5 [27...N:e5 28.Q:e5+ Bd6 29.Nb5+ ]
28.Nb5+ Kb8 29.N:d7+ Q:d7 30.Rg7

25.e5 is the move

Jun-03-18
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  sbevan: 1) +4.57 (22 ply) 26...Bxd6 27.Rxf7 Qxf7 28.Ng5 Qg8 29.Nb5+ Kb8 30.Nxd6 h6 31.Nf3 Qe6 32.Nxc8 Kxc8 33.Nh4 Qa6 34.Kb1 Qe6 35.Rg7 Rf8 36.Kc2 Rg8 37.Rg6 Rxg6 38.hxg6 h5 39.Qe4 a6 40.Bg5 Nf6 41.Bxf6 Qxf6
Jun-03-18  morfishine: I liked <25.h6> planning the rook invasion <26.Rg7>
Jun-03-18  Marmot PFL: 25 e5 looked good but very complicated so it figures to be the answer but I doubt I would play it. Probably I would have played 25 Ng5 Bxg5 26 Rxg5 then Rf5 and it looks really hard for black to defend this.
Jun-03-18  morfishine: <Marmot PFL> Very good point that highlights the nature of these positions from real games (vs created "puzzle positions") where multiple solutions are possible due to the weakened position of the losing player
Jun-03-18
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  Yuridmi: These "chrisowen" posts are the most bizarre things. Is it real? Some sort of computer-generated madness? Perhaps it all makes sense to other Chessgames subscribers: "chrisowen: Fives gongs veggies vints vowus vimus gives pe5on elousy pe5on eggers to it evict 25Ndxe5 cover cogent vints longs eggers 3 it ok haves overt pd6on decklog longs kd6on delight decks vints to it divein 26...Bxd6 cover cious fives doffleg vints ..."
Jun-03-18  landshark: I saw 25.e5 quick enough - if you don't play it now, Black will blockade it - but missed the nice line opener 26.d6+. As for the rest - insane enough for me!
Jun-04-18  mel gibson: < Yuridmi: These "chrisowen" posts are the most bizarre things.>

I have him blocked so I don't see it.
Why is he allowed to post such rubbish?

Jun-04-18
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  Richard Taylor: <mel gibson> He is not really doing any harm. If you don't see the posts you are o.k. He isn't violating the rules as some do such as Big Pawn and others who abuse people and so on.

I think he loves or has a kind of code that he writes in. There is nothing wrong with that. Bizarre to such as <Yuridmi> is interesting to others. Perhaps those who don't like it are what are called "unimaginative" and "unadventurous". But he keeps posting or the computer does...whatever...

Jun-04-18
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  Richard Taylor: As to the problem I was sure that the first move was as played, I did see the Ba5 move but it was so complex that I would have played e5 and worked out the details as I went I think unless it was a correspondence game. But to see the moves as played...I didn't see what to do after Kxd6. At first I didn't see it. So in a real sense I was no where near "solving it" as such. Guessing the first move is not quite the ticket.

Usually I don't spend too much time on the insane ones. They're for the really brainy people like The Englishman who seems to know everything about chess...

However, well played by White!

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