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|Jul-24-07|| ||xKinGKooLx: This puzzle completely stumped me. I spent 5 minutes trying to find the answer before giving up. I analysed loads of moves trying to find a mate, and then found out it was just one simple quiet queen move. They always seem obvious when you look at the answer afterwards! Not a Tuesday puzzle IMO, probably a Thursday puzzle. I'll have to remember this tactic from now on, and also, you don't always have to try and find a mate!|
|Jul-24-07|| ||jtd200: Ah! I was looking at rook sacrifices and the like... I ended up seeing the idea of the knight checking with a discover against the black queen, after say Rxp, KxR, Qg3+, etc, but there was nothing quite there.. It was just a simple fork! :(|
|Jul-24-07|| ||mworld: Hardest part to me is figuring out why 33.Qd4 is a winner.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||SilentGenius: A tough puzzle for tuesdays. First I was looking for 27. Rxg7 Kxg7 28. Qg3+, but the black king escapes to 28. ...Kh7 so white doesn´t get anything. Then I reallized that the rook wasn´t protected. So I saw Qf4 attacking the rook and threatning Ng6+. So black has to move the queen and white wins the rook for a bishop. Not a decisive advantage in my opinion.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||YouRang: I got it, but it took a minute or so.
Usually, it's easier to find the winning move in a position when it's presented as a puzzle (like this) than OTB, because in a puzzle you KNOW there's a winning move to be found.
This might be an example of the opposite: I think I might have found this faster OTB because I wouldn't have wasted so much time looking for a clever mating tactic. I'd just look for a good move, and 27. Qf4 is a screaming good move. Attack the rook AND set up a queen-winning discovered check.
Good Tuesday puzzle: Not hard, but a little subtle.
BTW, <chessgames.com> does an amazing job of coming up with these every day.
|Jul-24-07|| ||newton296: someone once said , chess is 90% tactics and 10% strategy. This old adage led me too todays solution. Once again looking at the tactics leads to a win! Pretty basic double attack move. about right for a tuesday. got in 30 seconds if that, after wasting 3 days trying to work a King side attack.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||kevin86: I looked for mate and then for a fork or pin-then I saw that black's rook is unguarded,so a veiled discovered attack on the queen with check in effect made 27 ♕f4 a double attack. The queen and rook cannot both be saved,black can only regain a bishop for the rook and is soon lost.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||Duque Roquero: Beautiful, but not easy at all.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||unixfanatic: I'm a little surprised, because I wouldn't consider getting a rook for a bishop to be getting an overwhelming advantage; it's a little, admittedly, but hardly enough to say after move 26 "White to play and win"|
|Jul-24-07|| ||YouRang: <unixfanatic: I'm a little surprised, because I wouldn't consider getting a rook for a bishop to be getting an overwhelming advantage>|
True, but I think there are positional considerations as well. In the final position, black is running low on decent moves.
|Jul-24-07|| ||Rama: What's wrong with 27. Rxg7 Kxg7, 28. Re3 ..., threatening 29. Rg3+ and 30. Qxh6 ... ? |
The Queen + Rook + Knight should be able to give mate, and the Rd2 is attacked along the Q's diagonal for insurance.
What have I missed that Smyslov saw?
|Jul-24-07|| ||notyetagm: <patzer2: <since when does being an exchange up qualify as being a guaranteed win?> Perhaps when your name is Smyslov and your opponent is Pachman, or as in the case when Black has little or no compensation for the exchange.>|
Absolutely. Black has no compensation at all here for being down the exchange. And when your technique is as good as Smyslov's, that means White wins.
|Jul-24-07|| ||Crowaholic: <willyfly: 27 ♕f4 ♕e7 28 ♘g6+ fxg6 doesn't win the ♕>|
That's probably why <MenisfromVenis> said it *threatens* winning the Q.
|Jul-24-07|| ||InnerVoice: Well, at the end of the game, white has a plan of Rd1 and swapping queens on d6 or d8. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot black can do about it. If the queens ever come off, the rook eats on a7 and b6, and see you later.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||beenthere240: 33. Qd4 makes it clear that white will invade on the d file, force an exchange of queens, create a passed queenside pawn, and that there isn't much black can do to stop it.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||beenthere240: 26...Kh7 would have been better than Kf8, although the weak f pawn keeps the black queen tied down.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||playground player: I dunno about this one. I had 27. Rxg7, Kxg7 28. Qg3+, Kh8 or f8 29. Ng6+, discovering a capture of Black's Queen. But it'd be ruined if Black played 28...Kh7.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||fm avari viraf: White simply wins the exchange with 24.Qf4 [threatening to win the Queen with Ng6+ ] hence Black saves his Queen & goes exchange down but that wasn't enough & resigns.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||nateinstein: Definitely harder than the normal Tuesday. I get a 10 minute break at work and usually get to spend most of it doing other things than solving the Tuesday puzzle. Not today! I think the fact that there are so many possible moves on the board is what makes it more difficult. Sometimes its easier to get a plan on a Friday or Saturday game if the number of candidate moves is low. Here there are plenty of candidate moves.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||ajile: I didn't see any direct king attack so then I noticed the rook was unprotected. After that it was easy.|
|Jul-29-07|| ||mworld: Ah I see now. Thanks for clearing that one up for me beenthere240 and InnerVoice - appreciate it.|
|Aug-12-07|| ||Beancounter: I'm the very last to see Qf4, but hey, did it in the end!|
|Oct-03-09|| ||King.Arthur.Brazil: Pachman eventhough famous by his book on strategies, is weak as player. From position 14...c5, you see white better position ready for KS attack. At 21 B had column d, white had 2R on 'e', and make undirect pressure on e6-f7 P. Now blackm invades with Rd2 but closes his own R by Bd5. Obviously Smyslov take care an planed the amazzing Qf4 from the "white win" from 2007. 26. Rg3 treats Qxf6 and Qxg7#, which forced Kf8
(Kh8 is the same Ng6+ theme) Maybe white had 29.Rd3 directly, since after Rxd3 Qxd3, (Bxa2?? c4! treats Ra1), Bd5 c4! and win the same!|
|Jun-27-13|| ||Rikitik777: guys can't see the simple Qd4...maybe we need rest fatigue factor sets in.....it happens that's why
even strong players blunder!!!!!!!|
|Apr-11-14|| ||WCC Editing Project: |
This game was part of the <Chigorin Memorial 1947> international tournament, held 25 Nov - 23 Dec in Moscow.
<Smyslov> shared third with Boleslavsky, behind Botvinnik and Ragozin, ahead of Kotov and Keres, scoring +6 -1 =8.
Winter, Edward ed. "World Chess Champions" (Pergamon Press 1981), p.149
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