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Ivan Hausner vs Susan Polgar
"Zsuzsa's Petals" (game of the day Sep-30-2008)
HUN-ch op (1983), Kecskemet HUN
King's Indian Defense: Four Pawns Attack. Dynamic Attack (E76)  ·  0-1

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Sep-30-08  arsen387: <PolishPentium: 29 Qxe3 Rf1+ 30 Qg1 Rxg1+ 31 Rxg1> after 30.Qg1?? Qxg1 is simply a mate. but after 30..Rf1+ 31.Rxf1 Qxe3 blacks have Q+B+2pass pawns! for white's 2R and definitely winning. Very nice game by Polgar
Sep-30-08  jack1501: i think i saw this listed as game of the day for 11/11/20004. does anyone else remember seeing this?
Sep-30-08  newzild: A very nice GOTD today.
Sep-30-08  hedgeh0g: <i think i saw this listed as game of the day for 11/11/20004. does anyone else remember seeing this?>

You saw into the future?

(har har)

Sep-30-08  DoubleCheck: I saw a few things before the attack of 29...Ng4!
Firstly White cant take the knight with 29. Qxe3

Since 29 Qxe3 is met with:

29. Qxe3 Rf1+ !!
30. Rxf1 Qxe3

Also after black played 26. Rf8
instead of losing the knight white should look to equal with something like 27. Ng3!? therefore;

27. Ng3 !? Nxf1
28. Rxf1 Rxf1+
29. Nxf1

Then if black plays

A)

29... Qf2!
30. Qxc4 saves

B)

29...Qd1
30. Qf5+ (or Qxc4) saves

From this position white is equal with material but the only major threat left is the centre pawns

Sep-30-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: Too bad for white, it seems that Zsusa does hold the game like a natural.
Sep-30-08  kevin86: It looks lie a fork or smothered mate is coming. I think white's queen is a goner.
Sep-30-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: For full points in today's trivia quiz you need to spot the classic film that the GOTD title refers to ...

Anyone?

Sep-30-08  jack1501: it's a wonderful life
Ward Bond: "Hey, your mouth's bleeding. Are you sure you're all right?"

Jimmy Stewart: "What dya... Ha ha ha ha! My mouth's bleeding, Burt! My mouth's blee... Zuzu's petals! Zuzu... There they are! Burt! What do you know about that? Merry Christmas!"

and the year was 11/11/2004 in my previous post, if i could see into the future, then i'd know when i could make money on the stock market and sports!

Oct-01-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <jack1501> Take ten points, sir!
Oct-01-08  kevin86: To add to the movie story:Zsuzsa won a flower in a contest at school. When she handed the flower to her dad,a few petals fell off. To allow her to believe he "fixed it",the dad put the petals in the waistband of his pants.

When the dad made the deal not to have ever been born,the petals were no longer in the pants-

Nov-26-21  Brenin: After a minute or two thinking it was White to move, and falling to find anything interesting, I realised my error and found 24 ... Ne3. Despite 25 Qe6+ Kh7 taking the Q out of danger, White's two Rs and N are vulnerable, even after 26 Bxf8 Rxf8, so Black is going to win material. At the end, White can do nothing against the threat of Nf2+.
Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  GufeldsVengeance: What is up with the puzzle ratings? This one is not hard---h5 is the only other idea. And most people would naturally favor Ne3.
Nov-26-21  Brenin: After 22 Bxh6 Nxf5 23 Bxg7 Nxg7 24 Qxe4, as suggested by <lostemperor>, White seems to have a slight advantage in view of Black's exposed K and scattered Ps.
Nov-26-21  mel gibson: The first move was fairly simple but
there were many things to consider:
a pinned bishop on g7,
a Rook attacked on f8 by the Bishop on a3,
a check on e6 by the White Queen,
a check on f6 by the White Knight.

Stockfish 14 says:

24... Ne3

(24. .. Ne3 (♘f5-e3
♕g4-e6+ ♔g8-h7 ♗a3-c5 ♕d4xe4 ♗c5xe3 ♕e4xe3 ♕e6xc4 ♖a8-c8 ♕c4-b5 e5-e4 ♖a1-b1 ♕e3-c3 ♖f1-g1 e4-e3 h2-h3 ♖c8-e8 ♖b1-e1 ♕c3-d4 ♖e1-e2 ♖f8-f2 ♖g1-e1 ♖f2xe2 ♕b5-b1+ ♔h7-h8 ♖e1xe2 ♕d4-f4 ♕b1-g1 ♕f4-g3 a2-a3 ♗g7-d4 a3-a4 ♖e8-c8 ♖e2xe3 ♗d4xe3 ♕g1-a1+ ♔h8-g8 ♕a1-a2+ ♔g8-f8) +8.94/36 378)

score for Black +8.94 depth 36.

Nov-26-21  saturn2: Solved it partly. along lines like
24...Ne3 (forks Q and R and asks the queen how to guard the Ne4) 25.Rxf8+ (not whites' stronest reply) Rxf8 26. Qh4 Rf4.
Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: Black is one pawn up.

White threatens Bxf8.

Black can touch every white piece, except the bishop, after 24... Ne3:

A) 25.Qe6+ Kh7 26.Bxf8 Rxf8

A.1) 27.Ng3 Nxf1 28.Rxf1 (28.Nxf1 Qxa1 wins) 28... Rxf1+ 29.Nxf1 Qd3 followed by the advance of the c-pawn looks winning for Black.

A.2) 27.Rfe1 Qxe4 28.Qh3 Qd3 29.Rxe3? Rf1+ and mate next.

A.3) 27.Rxf8 Qxa1+ and mate in two.

B) 25.Rxf8+ Rxf8 26.Qe6+ Kh7 with the double threat Qxa1+ and Qxe4.

C) 25.Qg6 Nxf1 26.Bxf8 Rxf8 (26... Qxa1 27.Qxg7#) wins decisive material.

Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  raymondhow: I got the first move, then played 25...Kh8 in response to the check, which didn't seem to matter. Later I diverged with 28...Qd3, which wins but not as clearly. I give myself half credit.
Nov-26-21  saturn2: <29 Qxe3 is met with:. ..Rf1+ !!> Playing over the game rapidly I overlooked this black's obvious answer. But thought the two passed pawns overcompensate the exchange and black wins the endgame.
Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
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Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: Have it touch no? Gab knights x no?
Nov-26-21  Cellist: I saw the first moves (24. ... Ne3 and 25. Qe6+) but wanted to play Kh8, but that loses because White can then retake with the R on f8 with check. I wanted to put the K on h8 to allow the N on e3 more mobility (it covers f5 against another White Q check if the King goes to h7). But what a difference Kh7 makes over Kh8! The engine gives the former an advantage of 6.19 for Black and the latter +2.67 for White.
Nov-26-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  raymondhow: < I saw the first moves (24. ... Ne3 and 25. Qe6+) but wanted to play Kh8, but that loses because White can then retake with the R on f8 with check. > Yes you're quite right, so no credit for me.
Nov-26-21  et1: As GufeldsVengeance said - ratings are changed. This week, Tuesday was the easiest, followed by Wednesday, Monday. Friday and Thursday in term of increased difficulty.
Nov-27-21  sp12: Could white have played 24. Nf2 instead of Kh1?
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