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| Dec-21-05 | | Jim Bartle: Was that the list compiled by Tim Krabbe? |
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| Jan-23-06 | | rogl: <Jim Bartle> Yep, I found it. It was nr 58 on that list. Not bad from a 13-year old. |
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Oct-13-08
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: What about <PinkZebra's> recommendation of 12.Nd5? It looks quite interesting. |
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| Oct-13-08 | | newzild: Apart from the astonishing 10...Nxe5!, 29...Rd2! was also a beauty. Black's hypermodern strategy triumphs, but it wasn't the most convincing win, despite the two cracking good moves by Judit. |
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| Oct-13-08 | | Sularus: judit was around 13 at that time |
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| Oct-13-08 | | PhilFeeley: I would have thought 11...Re8 would be considered more amazing than 10...Nxe5. |
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| Oct-13-08 | | kevin86: I would have liked to see the look on white's face had he replied 12 ♗xd8?? ♘xf3#. |
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| Oct-13-08 | | ThePawnOTron2: <kevin86: I would have liked to see
the look on white's face had he replied 12 ♗xd8?? ♘xf3#.> kevin86, that is true! 12.Bxd8?? falls victim to a [discovered double checkmate] (12...Nxf3#). |
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| Oct-13-08 | | MikeChesss: If 12...Nf3+ couldn't white just reply with 13 Kf1? |
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| Oct-13-08 | | DoubleCheck: 29. ...Rd2!
38. ...f3+!
fastastic innovations by black
especially 38...f3+!
even when white was threatening mate next move black still marches his pawn down and note that if king had taken the pawn(to save queen moving and to retain the threat of mate) 39. Kxf3?!
Black was threatening Qh1+!
39. Kxf3?! Qh1+!
and now the threat is very problematic for white since 40. Kf4 is met with 40...Qe4# Mate
and
40. Kg4 is met with 40...Re4+!
if 40. Kg4 Re4+!
41. f4 Qh5 mate
40. Kg4 Re4!
41. Qf4 is the only other alternative.
Good game by Black. |
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| Oct-13-08 | | Microbe: Wow. I don't post much, but I just had to after watching this game. 11... Re8 was very impressive and 29... Rd2 is beautiful. I've always assumed that GM Judit Polgar's chess would be a bit over tactical for me to follow (I am very weak). Are most of her games this natural? |
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| Oct-13-08 | | ThePawnOTron2: <MikeChesss: If 12...Nf3+ couldn't white just reply with 13 Kf1?> MikeChesss, after 12.Bxd8 Nxf3+, 13.Kf1 is illegal because there is a bishop on the f1-square. --ThePawnOTron2 |
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| Oct-13-08 | | pacorrum: Black holds back the queen until move 27, among all the fireworks... just incredible |
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| Oct-13-08 | | medstu56: 12.Qe2 looks stronger |
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| Oct-13-08 | | ThePawnOTron2: <medstu56: 12.Qe2 looks stronger> 12.Qe2 Nxf3+ 13.Qxf3 Bxc3+ 14.Qxc3 Nc6 looks equal. 12.Bxb5, seems to be quite good for White. --ThePawnOTron2 |
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| Dec-28-08 | | notyetagm: 29 ... ?
click for larger view29 ... ♖b2-d2!!
click for larger viewI just love Polgar's 29 ... ♖b2-d2!!.
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| Jun-07-10 | | smitha1: 10... Nxe5 is flashy, but is it necessary? Surely simply 10... Nc6 bringing in much needed reinforcements is more rational and more aligned to the hypermodern style. |
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| Jan-05-23 | | generror: I initially thought: Wow, to be down a bishop against Judit Polgar and not resign immediately, now THAT's what I call fighting spirit! Then I saw the game was played in 1989, and the world just didn't know yet who that 13 year old girl really is. Still, a great game by both players, and kinda one of my favourites. |
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Jan-05-23
 | | perfidious: Polgar had already claimed a GM scalp (Lev Gutman) in 1987, so she was far from an unknown. |
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| Jan-10-23 | | generror: <perfidious> Definitively not an unknown, I agree, but it still wasn't clear that she would become the first and (so far) only female contender for the world championship :) |
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Jan-10-23
 | | saffuna: <Polgar had already claimed a GM scalp (Lev Gutman) in 1987, so she was far from an unknown.> She also had two older sisters who were already making their mark. Susan was soon to become a GM, and Sofia had recently won an open in Rome where numerous GMs competed. |
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| Jan-10-23 | | Muttley101: <generror: I initially thought: Wow, to be down a bishop against Judit Polgar and not resign immediately, now THAT's what I call fighting spirit!
Then I saw the game was played in 1989, and the world just didn't know yet who that 13 year old girl really is.>
Really? The world didn't know who Judit was? 1) read her Wikipedia page and see how well known she was before 1989, and 2) she was already an IM in 1988, and the youngest to have achieved it. The world definitely knew who she was.
Just one example: I played in the Biel quickplay (an open) in 1987, with well over 100 participants as I recall, and watched Judit carve up IMs and GMs round after round to win it; IIRC she destroyed GM Abramovic with white in the last round. She was amazing. Also, apart from being incredibly strong already, she was well known because of being the sister of Susan and Sophie, as others have pointed about above. As said, of course she was well known in 1989. |
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| Jan-11-23 | | generror: Guys, I never claimed she was unknown or not well-known in 1989! I know she was already famous by then. What I said was that the world probably wasn't prepared to know how strong she really would turn out to be, as this game shows, in my opinion -- if Greenfeld would be down a bishop against, say, Kasparov, I just can't imagine he would have gone on playing. He must have thought she would somehow blunder it, a clear indication of not really knowing whom he was playing against. |
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| Jan-11-23 | | stone free or die: I'm not sure if Greenfeld fully realized how bad his position was against best play. Plus he was likely in a bit of a daze after 29...Rd2! He had the forward Q-side passed pawn, and an attack on the 7th. But Judit shut it all down brilliantly by aggressive play. (I think so anyways, didn't play it out with an engine yet). |
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| Jan-11-23 | | ndg2: The only acceptable move for white after 40..Qc6+ is 41.f3, which allows swift queen exchange after 41..Qc2+ etc. Everything else loses either the rook on d7 (41.Qf3), costs the queen after 41. Kh3 Rh5+ 42. Kg4 Rg5+ 43. Kf4 Rf5+ or results in mate after any other king move (either Rh5+/Re1+/Qh1#, depending on which king move white choses). |
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