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Andre Muffang vs Karl Robatsch
"Do You Know the Muffang Man?" (game of the day Jul-08-2013)
Moscow Olympiad qual-2 (1956), Moscow URS, rd 6, Sep-06
English Opening: Great Snake Variation (A10)  ·  1-0

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Jul-08-13  Nicocobas: <Somebody> Please explain the pun.
Jul-08-13
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  piltdown man: Watch "Shrek".
Jul-08-13
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  Phony Benoni: <Nicocobas>: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mu...
Jul-08-13  Nicocobas: <Phony Benoni> Thanks.
Jul-08-13
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I've only seen Muffang get pounded by the great ones, so it's quite interesting to see him do the pounding for a change.
Jul-08-13  herttach: Much earlier than "Shrek". "The Muffin Man" is a traditional nursery rhyme or children's song of English origin. It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 7922. The rhyme is first recorded in a British manuscript of around 1820 preserved in the Bodleian Library with lyrics very similar to those used today:
Jul-08-13  morfishine: pun

1. The use of words or phrases to exploit ambiguities and innuendoes in their meaning, usually for humorous effect; a play on words. An example is: "Ben Battle was a soldier bold, And used to war's alarms: But a cannonball took off his legs, So he laid down his arms."

What this means is the use of words or phrases must indirectly relate to the core subject, in this case, chess. Since the delivery of English muffins by a fictional character who lives on Drury lane has no connection with chess, this fails to meet the minimum requirement for classification as a pun

Jul-08-13
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  Domdaniel: <morfishine> Of course it's a pun: it inserts the name Muffang (a chess player) into an unfamiliar context, which is quite sufficient.
Jul-08-13
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  OhioChessFan: We had a fellow at work who used to bring muffins to sell. Of course we dubbed him The Muffin Man and would sing when he showed up. We all knew the little ditty about the Muffin Man on Drury Lane, but nobody could explain where they knew it from.
Jul-08-13  Abdel Irada: <What this means is the use of words or phrases must indirectly relate to the core subject>

I didn't see any mention of that in the definition you supplied. A pun can be about ... anything. All that's required is what the final clause named: "a play on words," in which there is some logical connection between literal and punning meaning.

Now, you can certainly argue that this isn't a very *good* pun, and if you have a better suggestion, I'm sure the admins will be happy to consider it. But to say it doesn't qualify as a pun *at all* seems a bit far-fetched.

Jul-08-13
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  kevin86: I don't know why white didn't take the queen sooner.
Jul-08-13
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  Domdaniel: "There is high magic in low puns."
-- Thomas Pynchon
Jul-08-13  maxi: <kevin86>: "Winning" the Q in the variations before 28.Rd1 was no good because after bxQ BxR Black has two R for Q and an even position. White played strongly.
Jul-09-13  morfishine: <DomDaniel> & <Abdel Irada> A pun is a play on words, but a play on words is not necessarily a pun:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pun

Jul-09-13  Abdel Irada: <morfishine>: Please note that "a play on words" was not the full definition I supplied.

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