Akiba Rubinstein vs Gyula Breyer (1912)

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Akiba Rubinstein vs Gyula Breyer
18th DSB Congress, Breslau (1912), Breslau GER, rd 3, Jul-17
Rat Defense: See also: Modern Defense (for lines with ...g6) (A41) · 1-0

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Jan-29-04		Sneaky: You guys say that 14.♕c1 protects b2, but really b2 doesn't require protection, e.g. 14.♕c2 ♕xb2?? 15.♖fb1

Oct-26-04		keypusher: Strangely enough, in the other game in which he played Breyer, Rubinstein played ...Qc8! Breyer vs Rubinstein, 1920

Jul-06-23		Mayankk: I thought the answer was 34 Bf7+ Rxf7 (forced to save its Queen) 35 Rxe5+ Re7 36 Rxd6 Rxe5 (Black can't capture the Queen back as the e7 Rook is pinned) 37 Qxe5+ and the game is over.

Jul-06-23		Brenin: I was torn between 34 Bf7+ Rxf7 35 Rxe5+ and the prosaic 34 Rde1, followed by 35 Rxe5+. White is 2P up with a commanding position, and there are many ways to finish Black off. I missed the best one.

Jul-06-23		Korora: I was wide of the mark this time.

Jul-06-23		King.Arthur.Brazil: This simple variant can win: 34. Bf7+ Rxf7 35. Rxd6 Rxg7 36. Rxe5+ Re7 37. Rxe7+ Kxe7 38. Rxh6, but will have a long final. Other possibility is: 34. Bc6+ bxc6 35. Rxd6 Rdxd6 36. Rxe5+ as Black lose a ♕ by a ♖. So the correct answer seems to be 34... Qxc6 35. Rxe5+ Re6 36. Qg8+ Ke7 37. Rxe6+ Qxe6 38. Qxe6+ Kxe6 39. Rxd8, with an extra ♖. Nevertheless, in the above line, White can check mate with 37. Qxd8+ Kf7 38. Rd7+ Kg6 39. Qg8+ Kf6 40. Qg7#. Therefore, 34... bxc6 is the less damage move. Seeing the game continuation, it is really a beautiful combination of Rubinstein. I must have think more...

Jul-06-23		jrredfield: I saw 34 Rxe5+ Qxe5 35 Bf7+ Rxf7 quickly. After quite a bit more pondering, I came up with 36 Qxe5+ Re7 37 Qh8+ Kf7 38 Qh7+ Ke6 39 Qg6+ Ke5 40 Re1+ Kd5 41 Qd3+ Kc6 42 Qc4+ Kd7 43 Rd1+ Ke8 44 Qg8#. Black hastened his demise with a few blunders. 26 ... Kc8 instead of 26 ... Rhf8 would have kept Black alive at least a bit longer. 7 ... a5 would have been better than 7 ... Qe7. Bringing out the queen too early while ignoring more important piece development, which is a common beginner's mistake, cost Black pretty much from this point on.

Jul-06-23		An Englishman: Good Evening: Breyer had a very creative approach to chess and many great ideas, but granting a massive pawn center and semi-open f-file to Rubinstein might not rank among them.

Jul-06-23		raymondhow: Took me a while, but I saw it through. But I was surprised by Rubinstein's inaccurate 36.Bh5+ since 36.Bb3+ is a quick forced mate.

Jul-06-23		mel gibson: I chose 34. Bf7+ I also saw 34. Rxe5+ but I wasn't as sure about it. They both lead to checkmate quickly. Stockfish 15 chose: 34. Rxe5+ (34. Rxe5+ (Re3xe5+ Qd6xe5 Bd5-f7+ Rf6xf7 Qg7xe5+ Rf7-e7 Qe5-h8+ Ke8-f7 Qh8-h7+ Kf7-e6 Qh7-g6+ Ke6-e5 Rd1-e1+ Ke5-d5 Qg6-f5+ Re7-e5 Qf5xe5+ Kd5-c6 Qe5-c5+ Kc6-d7 Re1-e7+) +M11/70 23) White wins mate in 11. If I force SF to play my move: 34. Bf7+ (34. Bf7+ Kd7 (Ke8-d7 Rd1xd6+ Rf6xd6 Bf7-e6+ Kd7-c6 Qg7xe5 b7-b6 b4-b5+ Kc6-b7 a5-a6+ Kb7-a8 Qe5-e4+ Rd6-d5 Be6xd5+ Ka8-b8 Qe4-e7 Rd8-d7 Qe7xd7 h6-h5 Qd7-b7+) -M10/70 21) score for Black minus mate in 10.

Jul-06-23		agb2002: White is two pawns up. Black threatens Rf1+. The white queen x-rays e5. This suggests 34.Rxe5+ Qxe5 35.Bf7+ Ke7 (35... Rxf7 36.Qxe5+ wins) 36.Bh5+ Ke6 37.Bg4+ Rf5 38.Bxf5+ Qxf5 (38... Kxf5 39.Qxe5+ Kxe5 40.Rxd8 wins) 39.Rxd8 wins (39... Qf1+ 40.Kh2 Qf4+ 41.Qg3). Also possible is 34.Bf7+ Rxf7 (34... Ke7 35.Rxe5+ as above; 35... Kd7 36.Rxd6+) 35.Rxe5+ (35.Rxd6 Rf1#) 35... Re7 36.Rxd6 winning.

Jul-06-23		agb2002: <raymondhow:... But I was surprised by Rubinstein's inaccurate 36.Bh5+ since 36.Bb3+ is a quick forced mate.> The idea is geometrically attractive and winning. I didn't even think of 36.Bb3+.

Jul-06-23		scormus: Lovely finish, Natural and elegant. Check, check, check, check, 1-0. Didn't see that 36 Bb3+ would have been even more emphatic.

Jul-06-23		goodevans: I got this one. Difficult not to when there are so many ways to win.

Jul-06-23		Refused: Went with the more trivial and less cinematic 34.Bf7+ which is safely +-

Jul-06-23		TheaN: I'm in the <34.Bf7+> crowd: I did eye Rxe5+ for a while but I felt it activated Black's queen a tad bit too much. In hindsight it doesn't matter but alas. After <34....Rxf7>, given that 34....Kd6 35.Rxd6+ +- and 34....Ke7 leads to many ways to win, I liked the look of 35.Bh5+ Ke6 36.Bg4+ Rf5 and well, take your pick: 37.Rxd6+ +- at least. <35.Rxe5+ Qxe5+> 35....Kd7 36.Qxf7+ +- and 35....Re7 36.Rxd6 +- <36.Qxe5+ Re7 37.Qh8+ #9> though I'd argue 37.Rxd8+ Kxd8 38.Qb8+ Kd7 39.Qxb7+ Kd6 40.Qxe7 +- is an elegant simplification.

Jul-06-23		chrisowen: Kims its a wed q crop its hull its Rxe5 its abe its ayle Bf7 its hub doh its axiom jug its a het rem Rxe5 ebb Bf7 its at over :)

Jul-06-23		raymondhow: << Didn't see that 36 Bb3+ would have been even more emphatic. >> I picked up on it from trying to make 34.Qh8+ work. That move works better later, after 36 Bb3+.

Jul-06-23		doubledrooks: I went with 34.Rde1. The Fish says it's mate in 11, and that's good enough for me.

Jul-06-23		corneliussulla: Q to G3 also wins easily

Jul-06-23		Arlekhino: Dear King.Arthur.Brazil: White gets checkmated in both the variants you have given. If, in your first "simple variant", 34. Bxf7+ Rxf7 35. Rxd6?? (I know, "the king loves it"), instead of 35... Rxg7?? Black can simply play 35... Rf1#. And if, in your "other possibility", 34. Bc6+ (?) bxc6 35. Rxd6?? (again...), instead of 35... Rdxd6?? Black can once more checkmate with 35... Rf1#. Please try to be more careful in your comments and analyses. I am Brazilian too, and I often feel embarrassed because of them, imagining what people from other countries may think about ours as a result of your mistakes. Thank you.

Jul-06-23		mel gibson: <Jul-06-23 doubledrooks: I went with 34.Rde1.> You're right - I didn't see that one. So - there are 3 mates in 11 that we know about. Stockfish 15 says: 34. Rde1 (34. Rde1 Rd7 (Rd8-d7 Qg7-g8+ Qd6-f8 Re3xe5+ Ke8-d8 Re5-e8+ Kd8-c7 Re8xf8 Rf6xf8 Qg8xf8 Rd7xd5 Qf8-f7+ Kc7-c6 Qf7-e6+ Rd5-d6 Qe6-c8+ Kc6-b5 Qc8-c5+ Kb5-a6 Qc5-c4+ b7-b5 Qc4-c8+) -M11/70 15) White wins _ mate in 11.

Jul-07-23		King.Arthur.Brazil: <Alekhino> I did the comment so fast that I didn't realize that White ♔ was in h1. I typed the answer for the translator, in other window. And in my brain, it was on g1, so I did the comment there, by memory, posted. When I check the game continuation and saw the beautiful combination of Rubinstein, I deleted it just to place this sentence. I didn't suspect this error up to your words. You are right, having a thief president is stealing my tranquility and my chess capacity if any. I'll be more careful, hoping this bad phase will pass. Thank you.

Jul-07-23		Arlekhino: Dear King.Arthur.Brazil: in chess, there is no excuse for not seeing checkmate in one, twice. And more embarrassing than your chess analyses (and your English usage) are your failed political views, which you have already been invited to refrain from expressing here. But people should know (and they know it) that you and I are now under a solid national government, after a four year nightmare, which was also an embarrassment to our country in front of the whole world. Thank you again.

Jul-15-23		tibone: My favorite was 34. Rde1

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