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Andrei Sokolov vs Valery Salov
"Andrei the Giant" (game of the day Sep-04-2013)
URS-ch sf (1983), Nikolaev (Ukraine)
Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Main Line (B89)  ·  1-0

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Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: My first impress is, that 24.Bf6+ Kh7? is a patzer (mistake), there is no win after 24.-Kxf6 25.Qg5+ Kg7 26.Ne4 Qe7 or 25.Qe6+ Kg7 26.Ne4 Qe7.
Apr-02-17
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  radtop: Sometimes a four star seems easy but I couldn't figure out some of the moves before the puzzle.
Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: Oh, mistake, I had a black Knight on c6 not Nc5.
Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: 24.-Kxf6 25.Qg5+ Kg7 26.Re1 Qd8, so
24.-Kh7 is a patzer.
Apr-02-17  kungfufighter888: i knew the 1st move rook eat pawn check
Apr-02-17  pth: Why not 26. Re7+?
Apr-02-17  sid299792: With the amount of white pieces eyeing the black king, the position of the black pieces and the open g-file, Rxg7 immediately stands out.
Apr-02-17  morfishine: <18.Rxg7+> The game is exciting enough, but this position is poor for a puzzle: this is the only move

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Apr-02-17  saturn2: At move 29 white could go for mate instead of winning the queen. 29 Qf4 attacking d6 and Rh6
Apr-02-17
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  KITZ: If 29 Qf4 then 29 . Nd3+.
Apr-02-17  rainingpieces: If 24...Kxf6 then 25.Qd4+ should get the job done. Black has two options: 25...Kd7 26.Re1+ Kd8 27.Qf6+ etc.. 25...Kf5 and I think 26.h4 looks sufficient.
Apr-02-17  Steven87: <At move 29 white could go for mate instead of winning the queen. 29 Qf4 attacking d6 and Rh6>

29.. Nd3 and the White queen is lost

Apr-02-17
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  Once: The key to this puzzle is to notice that white has castled queenside and black is throwing pawns at him. Black is castled kingside and white is throwing pieces at him. Black's c pawn is missing.

Add all that together and the solution is obvious. We're playing a sicilian and we need to sacrifice something on the kingside. The classic Rxf6 isn't available to us, so that only leaves 18. Rxg7 followed by Rg1+.

White gets a pawn, a knight and the attack in return for his rook. What's not to like?

Apr-02-17  Howard: Computers have certainly profoundly changed the game of chess, and this particular game illustrates this. According to a column by Andrew Soltis back in about 1984, Sokolov and his trainer started analyzing 15.g5 back in about...1977 ! They worked on this move off and on for years, and as a result, Sokolov blew his opponent right off the board in this game.

Nowadays, with computers, you just set up the position, give it a couple mouseclicks, and....

Apr-02-17
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  ChessHigherCat: What about 24...Kxf6 25 Qd4+? If Kf8 26. Qf6+ Ke8 27. Re1+ Kd7 and mate in 2. if 25...Kf5, there's got to be a mate with f4 and Rg5# or something, but I'm not exactly sure how
Apr-02-17  RandomVisitor: <Nowadays, with computers, you just set up the position, give it a couple mouseclicks, and....>

After 15.g5


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Stockfish_17032800_x64:

<-0.35/37 15...b4> 16.Bxc6 Bxc6 17.Nxe7+ Qxe7 18.Bxc5 dxc5 19.Nb1 Rac8 20.Qe3 c4 21.Rd4 Qc5 22.f4 e5 23.fxe5 Ba4 24.Nd2 c3 25.bxc3 bxc3 26.Nb1 Qa5 27.Rg3 Bxc2 28.Nxc3 Ba4 29.Qd2 Bc6 30.Rf3 Qc5 31.Kd1 Rce8 32.Nd5 Rxe5 33.Rc3 Qb5 34.Rb3 Qf1+ 35.Qe1 Qxe1+ 36.Kxe1 Bxd5 37.Rxd5

Apr-02-17  morfishine: Just to reiterate, <18.Rxg7+> is the only move, which relegates this "puzzle position" to that place known as "back to the drawing board"

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Apr-02-17  Howard: RandomVisitor, I appreciate your input but how about explaining a bit more specifically the point of the above-posted analysis, since I don't have a chessboard in front of me right now.

Thanks!

Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: Raining pieces answers 24.-Kxf6 with
25.Qd4+ but black plays not-Kf5 or Kd7
Re1+, and not Ke7 with Qg7+ I think for
24.-Kf6 25.Qd4+ Kf7 0-1.
Good evening, I have noticed, that the Labrador kibitzer, the moon kibitzer, and the red muppet kibitzer did not comment the patzer 24.-Kh7, seems the meaningful move here.
Apr-02-17
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  agb2002: White is one knight down.

Black threatens Nxg6, Nxe4 and b4.

I have considered Rxg7+, exf5, Qh5, Rdg1, Rh6 and Rg3.

I don't know. I'd probably try 18.Rg3 with the idea Qh5-Rh3 although I found 18.Rxg7+ Kxg7 19.Rg1 Ng6 20.exf5 very interesting.

Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: There is a white Bd5, 24.-Kxf6 25.Qd4+
Kf5 26.h4 Rxh4 27.Qxh4 Bxd5, and todays question again is: where is the victory?
Apr-02-17
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  agb2002: According to Stockfish 18.Rg3 loses to 18... Nxe4 19.Nxe4 Bxd5.
Apr-02-17  RandomVisitor: <Howard>Whenever I post analysis, what I am really trying to say is something like, 'does this suggested move have any merit?' For example, Stockfish on deeper analysis now thinks that 15.g5 has equal chances:


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Stockfish_17032800_x64:

<0.00/44 15...Rfc8> 16.Bxc6 Bxc6 17.Nd5 Bxd5 18.Nxe7+ Qxe7 19.exd5 e5 20.h4 Na4 21.Qd3 Nc5 22.Qd2 Rc7 23.h5 Rac8 24.Kb1 Qd7 25.h6 g6 26.Qa5 b4 27.Rc1 Rb7 28.Bxc5 Rxc5 29.Qxa6 Ra7 30.Qb6 Rb7 31.Qa6

Perhaps the position after 15.g5 is complicated and needs more analysis.

Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: 26.f4 Rg5
Apr-02-17  Walter Glattke: 26.f4 Rh5 of course.
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