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Jaan Ehlvest vs Valery Salov
"Ehlvest Sighting" (game of the day Nov-10-2015)
USSR Championship (1984), Lvov URS, rd 6, Apr-??
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen. Tal Variation (B82)  ·  1-0



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Oct-22-02  numlock31: Does anyone know if Deep Fritz is better than Deep Blue?

Also, Ive noticed some games are labelled as "blindfolded" and they seem to have many "wrong"moves in them, even though they are games of highly rated GM's. Are these good games to study from?


Oct-22-02  OttawaChessFan: Its awesome to see in the final position how white has stretched blacks pieces beyond their capacity to defend. I love Sheveningen games, they can be geometrically beautiful, the theme of triangles in the chessboard can be seen well here.
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  Sneaky: Note for the neophytes: In the final position Black resigned because cannot meet both threats of Qxh7# and Rxd5

numlock, I think GM blindfold games are fine to study from. Even blindfolded most of these GMs play stronger than your average IM.

Oct-23-02  drukenknight: not sure I'm seeing what you are seeing what is wrong w/ 28...Nf6
Oct-23-02  marekg248: If 28. ... Nf6 then 29. Rxd7 Qxd7 30. Nxd7. Pretty hopeless for black...
Oct-23-02  marekg248: Though there is profusion of other possibilities, I agree in advance:)
Apr-26-08  Yopo: If 28..Nf6 29 Bh7+ Nh7 30 Nd7 with decisive material advantage
Nov-10-15  offramp: Deep Blue is better then Deep Fritz.
Nov-10-15  edbermac: Or "Ehlvest has left the building" for you CG punsters.
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  Once: <offramp: Deep Blue is better then Deep Fritz.>

That was a question asked back in 2002 by a user who hasn't been seen since 2003, so my guess is that they aren't around to hear the answer.

I would say that the Deep Fritz of 2002 would have been beaten easily by the Deep Blue of 1997. After all, Deep Blue was running on bespoke hardware and a chess software program like Deep Fritz would be limited by the hardware of the machine it was running on.

But a modern Deep Fritz running on a high end computer would probably beat Deep Blue. PCs have increased in speed enormously and chess software is more effective at analysing and decision-making than it was nearly 20 years ago.

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  OhioChessFan: Fantastic pun.
Nov-10-15  Ratt Boy: <Yopo: If 28..Nf6 29 Bh7+ Nh7 30 Nd7 with decisive material advantage>

I think the simple 29.♘xd7 is better still, winning a whole Rook because Black can't capture with the N.

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  HeMateMe: Isn't there a moratorium on Ehlvest/Elvis puns? No one got the memo?
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  OhioChessFan: <Isn't there a moratorium on Ehlvest/Elvis puns?>


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  kevin86: Black cannot hold on any longer.
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  HeMateMe: A little child is born, on the 8th rank.
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  Domdaniel: <edbermac> "Ehlvest has left the building" has been used already. More problematic is the Jack Womack novel 'Elvissy', a science fiction fable in which Mr Presley becomes the figurehead of a new religion. <Ehlvesty> doesn't really work, does it?

But Jaan Ehlvest, who was a contemporary of Kasparov and played him as a teenager, was a very strong player in his day. He also wrote an excellent autobiographical book.

Nov-11-15  Moszkowski012273: Looks like 14...Nxe5 or 14...exd4 had to be played.

Also 17.Bc4... is quite a bit stronger.

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