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Carl Schlechter vs Siegbert Tarrasch
Nuremberg (1896)
Polish Opening: Baltic Defense (A00)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Apr-24-21  Jean Defuse: ...

My database give the following result and game score:

[Event "Nuremberg"]
[Site "Nuremberg"]
[Date "1896.??.??"]
[White "Schlechter, Carl"]
[Black "Tarrasch, Siegbert"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00"]
[EventDate "1896.??.??"]

1. b4 d5 2. Bb2 Bf5 3. e3 e6 4. b5 Nf6 5. Nf3 c5 6. bxc6 Nxc6 7. Be2 Bd6 8. O-O h6 9. c4 O-O 10. cxd5 Nxd5 11. Nc3 Nxc3 12. Bxc3 Rc8 13. Qb3 Qe7 14. Nd4 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 Bc2 16. Qb5 a6 17. Qh5 e5 18. Bc3 b5 19. Rac1 Bg6 20. Qh3 Ba3 21. Rce1 b4 22. Ba1 a5 23. f4 exf4 24. exf4 Be4 25. Bf3 Qa7+ 26. Kh1 Bxf3 27. gxf3 Rfe8 28. Bxg7 1-0


Apr-24-21  Z4all: Hi <Jean>,

Any idea what primary source your DB used for the game? (Even a hint would help).

Just out of curiosity - what exactly is your DB, could you perhaps offer a word or two characterizing it?

Apr-24-21  Jean Defuse: ...

<Z4all: Any idea ...> not really - see: Biographer Bistro

<...could you perhaps offer a word or two...> Why not - my focus is on the years between 1800 and 1945, the basis is (no surprise) ChessBase with around 90,000 games and results during this period. But over the past four years I've added over 50,000 more, mostly from various digital sources.

The collection ends in 1980 with around 600,000 games (in comparison, CG has less than 140,000).


Apr-25-21  Chessist: Deutsches Wochenschach, 05.09.1897, p. 294. Nuremberg, July 1897.
Apr-25-21  realdumptrump: Thanks <Jean> and <Chessist> - I'll try to get the primary source for comparison purposes.

(I think Z-base used the <CG> source, and I assume <ChessBase> had the same moves / result - but I haven't checked)

<Jean> interesting to know. Do you track your secondary sources then?


Apr-26-21  Chessist: ChessBase knows this encounter not at all.
Apr-26-21  Jean Defuse: ...

Which result and game score is right? Was this a casual game? Is the source online available?


Apr-27-21  TheFocus: The game-score as <Jean Defuse> offered is the correct one and agrees with Warren Goldman's game-score in <CARL SCHLECHTER! Life and Times of the Austrian Chess Wizard>; game #230, pg. 508, with Schlechter's annotations. Warren refers to this as an offhand game, played in Nuremberg in 1897.

I imagine the annotations are from <Chessist>'s source, but I don't have DWS on hand right now.

The present game-score should be replaced with <Jean Defuse>'s.

Apr-27-21  Jean Defuse: ...

<Great thanks to Chessist & TheFocus!>

This game: Tarrasch vs Schlechter, 1897 also played in Nuremberg?


Apr-27-21  Chessist: Yes.

DSZ, August 1897, p. 234:
"Die drei folgenden Partien wurden im Juli d. J. im Nürnberger Schachklub gespielt, den Herr Schlechter auf seiner Sommerreise mit einem längeren Besuche beehrte."

"The three following games were played in July this year in the Nuremberg chess club, which Mr. Schlechter honored with a longer visit on his summer trip."

T-S Bishop 0:1 (29)
T-S Vienna 1:0 (29) = the game in question
S-T Ruy Lopez 0:1 (>43)

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