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Georg Marco vs Carl Schlechter
Nuremberg (1896), Nuremberg GER, rd 16, Aug-06
French Defense: Schlechter Variation (C00)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jun-29-12  coulapic: 61. Bg2 Kg6 62. Ke4 Kf6 63. Bf1 =
Jun-24-16  Smothered Mate: The position with black to move
​just after ​ 77. Ke3? ​ seems like it could be a good puzzle. ​



According to the Lomonosov tablebases:


The 50 move rule doesn't affect this part, since
​all relevant winning force mate in less than 40.

74. Kxe4 ​ (played) draws.

77. Ke3 ​ loses; Bd1! was the only drawing move.

77. ... Bg5+ ​ (played) was the only winning move.

78. ... Kd2 ​ just draws; Kb2! was unique-optimal. ​
Bh4+ is the only other move that keeps the win, and
​it only does so by repeating the position before Kb2. ​



According to 6-piece tablebases:


86. ... Kxb5 ​ just draws.

The position remained drawn for the rest of the game.

Those two things remain true even without the 50-move rule.

Jun-24-16  Smothered Mate: Actually, I missed that after Kb2!,
​Bd1 seems to make black's win require taking white's pawn ​
before making other progress, rather than straight-forwardly ​
forcing white to sacrifice its bishop for the d-pawn. ​
Accordingly, this probably wouldn't work as a puzzle on this site. ​


For what it's worth, the line I got was

77. ... Bg5+ ​ 78. Kf2 Kb2 ​ 79. Bd1 Kc1 ​ 80. Bb3 Kd2 ​ 81. Be6 Bh4+ ​ 82. Kf1 Kc1 ​ 83. Bb3 Bg3 ​ 84. Ba4 Kd2 ​ 85. Bb3 Kc3 ​
86. Bd1 Kb4 ​ 87. Kg2 Be1 ​ 88. Kf1 Bh4 ​ 89. Bg4 Kxb5 ​
from which the 6-piece tablebase says white gets mated in 22

. ​


(Side note: ​ I find the black king's
​dance around c2 in that line slightly funny.)

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