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Jacques Elbilia vs Alexey Shirov
"Tricks are for KIDs" (game of the day Dec-07-2006)
FRA-chT (1993)
King's Indian Defense: Four Pawns Attack. Dynamic Attack (E76)  ·  0-1



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Premium Chessgames Member <Benko Gambit?> It looks like one, but the ...b5 gambit in the KID is a slightly different animal.

Lately we've been using the Caxton opening classification system (data provided by Eric Schiller) and this system indicates that the position below (after 7.d5) is classified as "The Dynamic Attack."

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Dec-07-06  crafty: 23. ♕d3 ♕b5 24. ♖f3 ♘f2+ 25. ♖xf2 ♕xd3 26. ♗e3 ♕xe3   (eval -8.67; depth 13 ply; 100M nodes)
Dec-07-06  Maatalkko: High-Larry(US) pun!
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  al wazir: How about 23. Qd1 ? If 23...Nf2+ then 24. Rxf2 Bxf2 25. Qd2, and material is even. If 23...Ng3+ then 24. hxg3 Rh5+ 25. Qxh5 gxh5. Black has ♕+♘ vs. ♖+♖ (the ♘ at a8 is a goner).
Dec-07-06  Cyphelium: <al wazir> ♕ + ♘ against ♖ + ♖ usually means trouble for the player with the rooks. In this case, white is completely passive as well, while black can play ♘f6-g4/e4 etc. No real point in playing on, I think.
Dec-07-06  Richerby: <al wazir: How about 23.♕d1 ?> 23... ♘f2+ 24.♖xf2 ♗xf2 and Black will be a piece up, as far as I can see, since the ♘a8 can't escape.
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  Mateo: A nice bluff attack by Shirov. I don't think it should have worked against a stronger opponent. You must remember that Shirov is a Rook down after move 19.

There, the White Queen is under attack. After 20.Qf3, her majesty defends herself by attacking the Knight, like in the game but with a big difference in White's favour. After 20...Nxc3 21.Bd2 (that is the difference) Rxf4 (what else?) 22.Bxf4 Ne4+ 23.Kf1, Black may win the Knight on a8, but this leaves White with 2 rooks vs two Knights + 1 pawn. This is to White's advantage. The question is: does Black have enough compensation? Not clear.

In the game, after 20.Qd2 Nxc3 21.0-0?, White is lost as Shirov showed in a nice way. But after 21.Rf1 the game is very unbalanced, obscured by clouds. White wins the exchange but his King is unsafe.

One amazing point is 21.fxe5 Rxe5+ 22.Kf1 Qa6+ 23.Kg1 Ne2+ 24.Kf2 Nf6!! White has to do something against the fork at e4.

1) 25.Kf3 Rf5+ 26.Ke3 Ng4+ 27.Ke4 Qc4+, Black mates on the next move.

2) 25.Qc2 (or 25.Qd1) Ng4+ 26.Kf3 Qa8+!! 27.Kxg4 Qxg2+ 28.Kh4 Rh5 mate.

Dec-07-06  The17thPawn: <al wazir> I think Richerby is correct but he neglected to mention that after 25. Qd2,Be1! looks like the cruncher. Whie can wriggle but he's in bad shape. Oh and I made a move in the Littlewood game if you wish to continue.
Dec-07-06  twin phoenix: not so deep thought,
thanks for sharing the Taimonov game. it might be even prettier....
Dec-07-06  Paoli: Hello I am Paoli I am 10 years old and I am going to the nationals in chess and if someone canteach me a move or a checkmate for I win?
Dec-07-06  ounos: Beautiful... even 22. Rf2 fails to 22. ... Rxf4
Dec-07-06  syracrophy: Can someone please explain the pun?
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  WannaBe: There is a cereal, called Trix, and in the commercial, a cartoon rabbit (no, not bugs bunny) is always trying to get the cereal.

And everytime, the rabbit would fail, and the children would say: "Silly rabbit, trix are for kids."

So, it's a pun on the KID (children).

Dec-07-06  actinia: why does everyone say lately that the KID is busted?
Dec-07-06  thegoodanarchist: <actinia> I think because the bayonnet attack is so strong. But my understanding is that Black has recently found new resources.

Anyway, I gave up the KID because of the bayonnet attack. Now I play the QID or NID

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  Richard Taylor: It's a very similar idea to the Benko and is positionally correct to attack by b5 - I note that Tal's games - no matter how "tactical" or "random" they might appear - are usually based (his attacks and sacrifices)on positional themes eg the concept of gaining space, the dark squres for the Black B in the KI or if a b5 move break as in this game it is to weaken the pawn structure - also like all the great masters he balances time required wih development so that the scrifices are sometimes even or almost requisite. Other times as also with Shirov of course it is also a question of temperament and style - the love of complications and ideas of a tactical nature. Similarly here Shirov.

Also in most games Tal played fairly conventional mainline openings and developed quickly.

This doesnt exclude the beauty of the more "quiet " beauty and equally subtle of Capablancas, Karpovs, Petrosians, Kramniks and Botvinniks etc

Fischer and Kasparov perhaps and maybe Smyslov and Korchnoi are or were examples of players somewhere "in the middle"...

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  al wazir: Cyphelium: ♕+♘ against ♖+♖ usually means trouble for the player with the rooks> Agreed. <No real point in playing on, I think.> That's a matter of taste. I prefer to make my opponents demonstrate the win.

<Richerby: Black will be a piece up, as far as I can see, since the Na8 can't escape.> and <The17thPawn: White can wriggle but he's in bad shape.> 23. Qd1 Nf2+ 24. Rxf2 Bxf2 25. Qd2 Be1 26. Qxa5 Bxa5 27. a3 Rf8 28. b4 cxb4 29. axb4 Bxb4. The ♘ on a8 is (temporarily) safe, but not much more useful than the one in the box, and now white is a ♙ down. But that's still better than resigning after 22 moves.

<Oh and I made a move in the Littlewood game if you wish to continue.> I'm on the case.

Dec-08-06  kevin86: White threatens mate and two and also the queen,with his knight. White's best counter move is 23 ♕d3-which sucumbs to ♕b5-a neat echo sacrifice of the queen- White then faces a double pin. The queen must MOVE but cannot guard the third row and the rook at f1.
Dec-26-06  aazqua: Shirov certainly plays like a drunk russian.
Nov-28-09  hedgeh0g: Now that's what I call a dynamic attack!
Nov-14-10  sevenseaman: ... 22. Ne4 encapsulates the dynamism of Shirovs thinking; there is no defense.
Oct-24-11  howlwolf: For a moment i thought this game was an incorrect score and then I saw the mate in 3 if white takes the queen. it has been a hard monday.
Nov-17-12  fisayo123:
Feb-11-17  clement41: Marvellous game!
Apr-13-20  SpiritedReposte: <17. ...Be5!> <22. ...Ne4!> even the simple <13. ...Qxa6> Finding good moves all game long with the luxury of completely ignoring whites "threats".
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