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Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian vs Nigel Short
Simul, 30b (1978) (exhibition), London ENG
Queen's Indian Defense: Spassky System (E14)  ·  0-1



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Jun-22-04  Jim Bartle: I assume this is the game Short referred to in his newspaper column:

"The legendary Armenian needed only employ but a fraction of his rich strategic understanding to totally outmanoeuvre his na´ve and inexperienced 12-year-old opponent - myself. In closing in for the kill, however, he allowed a cheap tactical trick, whereupon he was forced to resign, which he did by pulling a face of utter disgust, angrily shoving his pieces into the middle of the board and storming off without shaking hands."

Jun-22-04  zagor: Interesting story. Remindes of Kasparov's reaction after losing to Radjabov
Sep-29-04  percyblakeney: Unlike Radjabov in that case, Short doesn't seem to have taken the incident lightly: "I have never succeeded in thinking of Petrosian as being anything other than an exceptionally rude, ignorant, Caucasian peasant." (page 8 at Nigel Short)
Sep-29-04  WMD: The English cannot abide rudeness by foreigners.
Sep-29-04  Orbitkind: It must have been great for Nigel Short's confidence to beat Petrosian at the age of 12. That's amazing.
Sep-29-04  WMD: Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.
Sep-29-04  clocked: To be considered
24.Nxg6, 30...exf5, 36.Qd3, 36...Nxg6, 37.Rxf6
Jul-05-06  sixfeetunder: Short didn't deserve that win for sure.
Jul-05-06  RookFile: No worries, later in his career, Short would make blunders such as allowing mate in one to Beliavsky.
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  Eggman: <<Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.>>

Doesn't count, that was a simul.

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  geezerbloke: <WMD: The English cannot abide rudeness by foreigners.> I didn't realise we were fond of it in the English.
Apr-20-07  Davolni: Has anybody done any analyses of this game? What was wrong in it? Does Short really deserve the win here? I would appreciate some thoughts of yours. THANKS
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  chancho: <Davolni> Looks like Tigran blundered a piece in the game, and Nigel punished his mistake.
Apr-20-07  Flyboy216: Wasn't this a simul too? It's not listed as one, and from the comments here it doesn't sound like people think it is, but Mr. Short himself has this to say on his page:

<I did not like Petrosian, who resigned against me in a simul with extraordinary ill-grace.>

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  chancho: <Flyboy216> Yeah, the game was from a simul.
Apr-20-07  Davolni: <Chancho> I don't think he blundered a piece, because for 37...Rxg6 white has Bb1xg6 and/or N E5xg6... I dont know....
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  chancho: <Davolni> Petrosian played 38.Qh5? (leaving himself a piece down as the rest of the game showed)
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  keypusher: <davolni> the problem is, after Nxg6 Black has ...Bxd4+.
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  IMlday: 19.g4 looks very strong to me.
May-08-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <chancho> & <Davolni>

First, Short blundered:

36 ... Rf6 (Nxg6 much better).

Then, Petrosian reciprocated twice as badly:

37. Qh2? (Rxf6 much, much better).

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  perfidious: The British Chess Magazine has a picture of Petrosian at Short's board, though I don't remember which issue- I haven't looked at that year's BCM in a long while.

<IMlday> When I first looked at your suggestion of 19.g4, I was sceptical- it isn't a move which would have occurred to me, as I'd likely have believed the weakness on the long diagonal would be too great a hazard in the long run.

Then, I thought of the aphorism, 'a weakness isn't a weakness if it can'e be attacked', and g4 didn't look bad after all.

Nov-26-07  SickedChess: http://streathambrixtonchess.blogsp... This game started the fireworks between Davolni and Short
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  John Saunders: The picture appeared on page 156 of the April 1978 issue of BCM. The simul took place at the London Central YMCA on 15 January 1978 and Petrosian's score was +10, =11, -9. BCM (Feb 1978, p71) reports him as saying "In the USSR such players do not play in simultaneous exhibitions ... they play in international tournaments." Leonard Barden wrote a detailed report of the simul in the May 1978 issue of BCM. As well as Short, the other players who beat Petrosian on this occasion were Ian Watson, Daryl Taylor, Ray Cannon, Ian Whittaker, Richard Holmes, Tony Peterson, Daniel King and Simon Brown.
Aug-11-09  DUS: <Eggman: <<Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.>>

Doesn't count, that was a simul.>

So you think this game with Petrosian was not a simul? You must have a very high opinion on Short.

Oct-15-10  Eduardo Bermudez: Kasparov, Karpov,Kramnik, Anand, Smyslov, Spassky, Tal, Topalov, Korchnoi and Petrosian !! among others, were beaten by Short
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