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Maia Chiburdanidze vs Nigel Short
"The Discovery Channel" (game of the day Jul-18-2008)
Dortmund (1983), Dortmund FRG, rd 5
Caro-Kann Defense: Bronstein-Larsen Variation (B16)  ·  1-0

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Jul-18-08
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  whiteshark: <PinnedPiece> and <DarthStapler> Now it's clear. Thanks for bringing home the message! :D
Jul-18-08  efrain chavez: relentless attack. No looking back from the beginning. Amazing.
Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Mate will come very quickly...

The Discovery Channel:home of some of my favorite shows-Cash Cab,Mythbusters,Smash Lab,and coming soon SHARK WEEK

Jul-18-08  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <PinnedPiece: Discovery Channel is a children's TV program on American cable.> Children's? It documentary program, based on popular science, technology and history.
Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <The Gender Question> This game - yes, it's a brilliant game, by any standard - was played quite a long time ago, when Short was still relatively inexperienced. It's hard to believe that in the post-Polgar world the idea of losing to a woman should strike dread into the heart of any male GM.

Timman and Short admittedly have sub-par results which may be caused by worrying, trying too hard, or not treating female opponents with enough caution. But, statistically, *somebody* is going to have a sub-par result -- just as somebody is bound to have a bad score against, say, Bulgarians.

Then again ... I had a 'streak' of ten successive draws against women, over a rating spread of about 1000 Elo points - roughly 1300 to 2300. I suspect that not wanting to lose played a part in this ...

Jul-18-08  Onizuka: hahahaha. Short has been crushed in this game.

I met Nigel Short at the beginning of the year near Antwerp (Belgium). This was 4 or 5 days before Gary has been arrested.

Nigel was the commentator for a simultaneous of Gary.

I discussed a little bit with him, and I quickly realised that he was not really sympathetic... He has bad manners and drinks too much wine.

That's why I like this game. He got what he deserved.

And obviously when Short dare to criticise Kramnik he is also drunk.

PS: Gary on the other hand is a gentlemen and he signed my chessboard. I was afraid to ask it to him because of his two huge bodygards... But in fact Gary took my chessboard on his own initiative and asked peaople to go ahead for my picture with him.

Gary you're the greatest. Next time find ask another commentator please. Nigel isn't good enough and his laugh is so weird.

Jul-18-08  PinnedPiece: <The Discovery Channel:home of some of my favorite shows-Cash Cab,Mythbusters,Smash Lab,and coming soon SHARK WEEK>

Actually, adults with curiosity watch a lot of the shows, along with the kids... I do when I get a chance.

Mythbusters has been great...wonder if they'll ever tackle "Humans will always be superior at chess"

Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: You and me baby we're nothing but mammals, let's do it like they do it in the Discovery Channel.
Jul-18-08  Udit Narayan: <chancho> LOL!
Jul-18-08  PinnedPiece: <chancho: You and me baby we're nothing but mammals, let's do it like they do it in the Discovery Channel.>

Even better would be the way mammals do it on Animal Planet.

Jul-18-08  PinnedPiece: Short sometimes visits CG.com.

Wonder if he would have any memories of this game? Anecdotes?

Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <Onizuka> -- <That's why I like this game. He got what he deserved.>

So, um, for an alleged act of rudeness in 2008 he was punished by losing a game 25 years earlier, when he was an untitled teenager?

I'm not disputing your claim that Short -- or 'Gump', as Tony Miles used to call him -- can be socially awkward, to put it mildly. He has made clear often enough his disdain for what he calls 'riff-raff', ie most people.

But aren't you standing cause and effect upside down? He's lost - and won - a lot of other games in the meantime. And to be fair to him, he *did* beat Karpov, Gelfand and Speelman in matchplay en route to his unsuccessful clash with Kasparov in 1994.

Jul-18-08  BlackNightmare: poor nigel still playing 90s chess
Jul-18-08  The Ninth Pawn: 28. Bd1 deserves my input in Game Collection: The Ninth Pawn's Chess Course. |=8]|
Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <17...f5!> and the ♕'s party is near enough over and done.


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Jul-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <chancho: You and me baby we're nothing but mammals, let's do it like they do it in the Discovery Channel.> Cole Porter was a little more polite about it:

<They say that bears
Have love affairs
And even camels,
We're merely mammals
Let's misbehave.>

<BlackNightmare: poor nigel still playing 90s chess> Did you happen to notice when this game was played, genius?

Jul-19-08  PinnedPiece: <keypusher<BlackNightmare: poor nigel still playing 90s chess> Did you happen to notice when this game was played, genius?>>

GWS* you're my kind of commentator.

*giggling without stopping

Oct-16-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  mjmorri: <Pinned Piece <keypusher<BlackNightmare: poor nigel still playing 90s chess> Did you happen to notice when this game was played, genius?>> GWS* you're my kind of commentator.

*giggling without stopping>

Maybe he meant 1890's chess!!

Apr-09-10  sfm: <nuwanda: What i would like to know is: after 21...Ka7 has white more than a perpetual> Good question, and I think the answer is "no".
<and if so, would Maia have gone for it ?> We will never know!
Dec-11-10  sevenseaman: Another time, playing White, Short's K had a more fruitful walk.
Aug-06-11
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  profK: Very Cute despatch of a GM by his own making...King marches are usually punished !!
Aug-06-11
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  perfidious: <Domdaniel: <Onizuka> -- <That's why I like this game. He got what he deserved.> So, um, for an alleged act of rudeness in 2008 he was punished by losing a game 25 years earlier, when he was an untitled teenager?

This is comical beyond words.

In 1994, I met Nigel and his son at the New York Grand Prix-we didn't even talk much chess, just two people meeting and being sociable.

Nov-23-11  sfm: 26.Rxb2 is neat. Can't remember seeing that one before. What a game!
Mar-31-12  Doctor Aust: At the time this game was played Short was 17 (or maybe 18 by the odd month) and an IM. Maia C was 23, also an IM and already womens' world champion for several years. So they might have been not too far apart in playing strength (though probably with the edge to Maia, I suspect) but she would have had far more top-level experience. Both Nigel and Maia became GMs in 1984.

BTW, if you check the tournament results for Dortmund '83

http://www.teleschach.de/schachtage...

- you find that Maia finshed 4th/12 on 7/11 pts, and her victims there also included GMs Murray Chandler and Istvan Csom. So Nigel was in good company.

Anyway, Chiburdanidze giving Short a tactics lesson should not really be that big a surprise given the date.

Jul-23-18  posoo: YES ONOZZUKS and porofo, da man DOS get wat he deserves IN ADvANCE.

TIME IS FUNGIBLE and u all know it.

Chess.

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