Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Gyula Sax vs Nigel Short
Subotica Interzonal (1987), Subotica YUG, rd 4, Jun-??
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  1-0



explore this opening
find similar games 13 more Sax/Short games
sac: 20.Nxc4 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.


Kibitzer's Corner
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheAlchemist: Short mentioned this game in his round 3 report from San Luis:

<Anand-Adams has exploded into extraordinary violence. The Zaitsev Variation is not a regular feature of the Englishman’s repertoire (he tends to prefer other systems of the Spanish), but clearly he had prepared something particular for the tournament favourite, excavating a line that was popular from the Kasparov-Karpov clashes back in the 1980s. It also jogged long-dormant painful memories of a game that I lost brilliantly to Gyula Sax in the Subotica Interzonal. Black’s kingside is jolly weak indeed.>

Jan-25-09  zev22407: A great attacking game by sax
Premium Chessgames Member
  Nigel Short: The worst thing was that I saw he was threatening Qxh6+, but I thought 37...Qd2 defended against it.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <Nigel> Yes, it's painful to think you've seen something, only to miss an obvious nuance. But it's possibly worse to be totally bewildered. Sax's piece sac 20.Nxc4 is very impressive.
Jul-15-15  Xonatron: Nigel, why did you think 37...Qd2 defended against it?
Jul-15-15  Xonatron: Nigel, in your book you mention, "Months of analysis and more practical tests have thus far failed to establish the soundness of Sax's knight sacrifice. I did not believe it at the time but after errors by both sides in time pressure Sax finished the game rather nicely."

I popped the position into Stockfish 6 (4096 MB hash + 8 cores), and it eventually sees the knight sacrifice as the best move.


Does not see it by depth 28. Notice the draw (0.00) evaluation:

28/41 00:23 184,379k 7,852k 0.00 bxa6 Rxa6 Nf5 Rxa3 bxa3 Nbd3 Bxd3 Nxd3 Re3 Qc5 Nxc4 Nxf2 Kxf2 Qxc4 Nxh6+ gxh6 Qg4+ Kh7 Qf5+ Kg8 Qg4+

First sees it at depth 29. Notice still close to draw (0.06):

29/41+ 00:36 287,587k 7,794k +0.06 Nxc4

Still at depth 29, it sees it as a distinct advantage (0.56):

29/48+ 01:07 535,811k 7,942k +0.56 Nxc4

Stopped at depth 34, the evaluation seems to stick (0.69):

34/56+ 08:11 3,748,930k 7,621k +0.69 Nxc4


(Note to chess engine connoisseurs that the move is detected immediately if the hash tables are already filled from previous moves. When you start the engine on this move, freshly, it takes much longer.)

Jul-15-15  Xonatron: Depth 40, and the evaluation is still climbing (0.87):

40/58+ 40:17 17,525,184k 7,250k +0.87 Nxc4

Jul-14-17  Chesstorian72: Nigel you're garbage that's why you lost you're an embarrassment to Chess!! Leave immediately!!
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Tabiyas 0010 +15 Moves + 100 Games
by Miguel Medina
Ruy Lopez
by KingG
Tabiyas 0010 +15 Moves + 100 Games
by Chibauk
(ML)17...c4 18.Nd4,Ne5 19.axb5,axb5 20.Nxc4
from The Spanish: Closed Defence : Flohr-Zaitsev by Woody Wood Pusher
Games of members
by truepacifism

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC