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Mikhail Gurevich vs Nigel Short
4th Euwe Memorial (1990), Rotterdam NED, rd 6, May-17
Dutch Defense: Rubinstein Variation (A84)  ·  1-0



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Aug-15-05  jahhaj: <Nick816> Monday's are easiest, they get harder during the week. You are doing very well if you get a Sunday puzzle.

If you are a premium member then you can review past puzzles in the <tactics archive>.

Aug-15-05  Nick816: oh ok

thanks for the info

eh I've done ok on the Sunday puzzles

I usually get the first couple moves or main idea but don't figure out all the varitations

never really tried to sit down and work everything out though..just a glance

Aug-15-05  sharpnova: lol. each monday is easier than the previous. and my opinion of short just shot through the floor.. i would have seen this combination when i was the patzeriest of patzers patzerable
Aug-15-05  cuedeefour: Thanks everyone for instructive comments. I am new to this site and enjoy it very much. I was wondering what is the idea behind White's 32b3. Couldn't he have tried the same combination Bxf5 on move 32 in stead of move 33? Of course, in both cases Rxf5 will hold, as Patzer 2 and others demonstrated so elegantly.
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  kevin86: The puzzle was very simple-but I especially the crowded diagonal c2-h7 with five pieces and black's h pawn in a row.

And I have to say it-----Nigel Comes up short again---BOO!!!!

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  al wazir: < We're switching over to that as a new format. The implied challenge is to find the best move, whether it wins, draws, or leaves things unclear. This should give us a little more leeway in the kinds of positions we can include as puzzles, and make it more like actually chess play.

Any comments on the change?>

1. Sometimes the positions you use for puzzles are unclear; sometimes the move played in the game wasn't the best or the only way to win. Sometimes the loser missed a workable defense in the actual play. Such positions are good candidates for "White (or black) to play" puzzles.

2. But you don't have to be inflexible about it. Some positions -- particularly the easy ones -- are better as "White to move and win" puzzles.

3. I notice that many postings just say the same things: "I solved it in 10 seconds." "The answer is x and then y." "I tried z first then y then x." Many kibitzers repeat previous comments because they didn't read earlier postings carefully. (I've been guilty of this myself.)

4. I think you could improve the quality of the dialog and the analysis by giving a pat on the back to the kibitzers who make the most insightful or original comments. Maybe you should pick a "post of the day." That way at least some of the kibitzers might start reading other people's comments.

Aug-15-05  YouRang: I got it, but I'm a bit embarrassed to say it took me almost a minute.
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  al wazir: <cuedeefour: I was wondering what is the idea behind White's 32b3.> Me too. <Couldn't he have tried the same combination Bxf5 on move 32 in stead of move 33?> 32. Bxf5 Qxf5? 33. Qxh6+ gxh6 (33...Kg8?? 34. Qh8#) 34. Rxh6+ Rh7.
Aug-15-05  jahhaj: <cuedeefour, al wazir> With 31...c3 Short is trying to invade White's queenside. If White plays 32.bxc3 then Short plays 32...♕a4 and White cannot stop the black queen getting getting at the white king, 33.♔a2 fails to 33...♖b8.

32.c3 is the only move to keep the white queenside closed.

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  al wazir: <jahhaj> I agree that b3 keeps the black from playing Qa4, but Rb8 is still a threat. White could prevent Qa4 with Bc2 and block with Kb1 if black played cxb.
Aug-15-05  Clutch: Snooze
Aug-15-05  jperr75108: almost as bad as getting sacked by a bunch of conservatives
Aug-15-05  I Pawn You: that's why it's easy, ahhhhh ahh ahhhhh ahh, it's easy like a monday puzzle, yeaaaah yeaaaah. :d
Aug-15-05  ajile: Unbelievably easy. 3 seconds max to find this.
Aug-15-05  sharpnova: <al wazir> i read your long post. are you done blowing steam? none of what you said was remotely constructive. just an excuse to hear yourself talk. i get really sick of people like you.
Aug-15-05  Boomie: The end of this game is marred by some slack moves on both sides leading up to the decisive lemon 33...Qxf5. Perhaps they were both in time trouble.

White can equalize against 31...c3 with the simple bxc3. However the Fritzy 33. Kb1 would be hard to find over the board.

32. bxc3 c4

(32...Qa4 33. Bxf5 Qxa3+ 34. Kb1 Qb3+ 35. Kc1 Qxc3+ 36. Kd1 (5.94))

33. Kb1 Kg8 34. Kc1 Qa4 35. Bxf5 Qxa3+ 36. Kd2 Qb2+ 37. Kd1= (0.00/14)

Better than 31...c3 was Rb8. White's best defense, the Fritzy 32. Qd1 followed by 33. Qc1, would not be easy to find. However 32. Bxf5 may also hold.

31...Rb8 32. Qd1

(32. Bxf5 Qxf5 33. Qxf5 Rxf5 34. Rxd6 e4 35. Rd7 Rbf8 36. Rd6 a5 37. Kb1 Rxf2 38. Rxf2 Rxf2 39. Rc6 (-1.21/14))

32...Rb6 33. Qc1 Ne7 34. Re6 Ng8 35. Qxc4 Qb5 36. Qxb5 axb5 37. Re8 b4 38. Ra8 bxa3 39. bxa3 Rfb7 40. f3 Rb3 41. Bf5 Rb8 42. Rxb8

(42. Ka2 Nf6 43. e4 Rxa8 44. Kxb3 Kg8 (-1.21/14))

42...Rxb8 43. Rb2 Rf8 44. e4 Ne7 45. Bg4 Ng6 (-0.69/17)

32. b3 is refuted by c4, admittedly another difficult move to find over the board.

32 b3 c4 33. Bxf5 Qxf5 34. Qxf5 Rxf5 35. bxc4 Rxf2 36. Rxf2 Rxf2 (-2.12/16)

Aug-15-05  Kangaroo: AGREE! <33 ... Qxf5> was a severe error, punished immediately with <34. Qxh6+> with the checkmate next move.

After <33... Rxf5> it remains unclear who is going to win - White or Black. Perhaps, a draw would remain the most plausible outcome.

Aug-15-05  tjshann: Blunt, but effective.
Aug-15-05  morphy234: too eezy!
Aug-16-05  soberknight: <al wazir: White: Kf1, Qh1; black: Kf4, Be8, Nf3, Ph2 (or more compactly, 4b32k7n9p5K1Q); white to play and win. Watch out for skewers, pins, forks, and other sharp devices!>

Let me advise you about how to write Forsyth-Edwards notation (FEN). You wrote ...b32k... to show that there are 32 unoccupied squares between Black's bishop and his king. However, the FEN convention is to make a forward slash after every line. Thus, your position translates in FEN to the following: 4b3/8/8/8/5k2/5n2/7p/5K1Q.

Now let me try to solve the problem.

1 Kg2 guards h1, so that the queen can leave.
1...Bg6, planning 2...Be4, which would create a permanent blockade. Not 1...Bc6? 2 Qc1+, which wins the bishop.

2 Qc1+ Ke5(!)
2...Kg4 3 Qc4+ Kg5 4 Qd5+ wins the hapless knight. After the text, White cannot take the knight because 3 Kxf3? h1=Q 4 Qxh1 Be4+ draws.

3 Qc3+ Kd5(!)
If White takes the knight, 4...Be4 costs him the queen. White can also win the bishop on g6 via a series of checks, but the moment he does, Black will answer with ...Nh4+. I will keep you posted (no pun intended) if I make progress.

Has this study been published? If so, where?

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  al wazir: <sharpnova: i get really sick of people like you.> Stick to chess. Otherwise you're just wasting bandwidth. CG asked for comments. Nobody asked to hear you mouth off.
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  al wazir: <soberknight>: Thank you for noticing my study! You correctly identified the themes. You found the key move. Unfortunately, you also found a cook! Too bad; it was a beautiful study otherwise.

You're right, FEN notation uses slashes to separate ranks. I don't know where I learned the contracted notation I used, but I didn't invent it. Though nonstandard it contains the same information and is unambiguous.

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  patzer2: <> <We're switching over to that as a new format. The implied challenge is to find the best move, whether it wins, draws, or leaves things unclear. This should give us a little more leeway in the kinds of positions we can include as puzzles, and make it more like actually chess play.

Any comments on the change?>

I much prefer Chess puzzles with a winning solution. Technically, if the solution is just to "play," versus finding a "solution" or "best move," then any legal move solves the puzzle. If I want to study positional chess, I can simply review GM games of players with positional styles (i.e. Karpov).

Perhaps an alternate solution would be to have a day of the week devoted to positional puzzles.

GM Larry Evans used to have a column with positional and opening book puzzles and he even published a book in this format. However, without his multiple choice options and explanations of why the wrong options or incorrect I don't know if it would have worked as well. Hopefully, your surprise positional puzzles will receive a welcome response from your customers. We'll see.

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  al wazir: <soberknight>: I don't see any way to salvage the study as a win for white. The best I can do is invert it and make it white to move and draw: q7/Pk6/2N5/2K5/8/8/8/3B4 (or in compressed notation, q7Pk8N7K32B4).

Now the solution isn't hard to find (at least, it wasn't for you, though I missed it), but the tricky part is to show why the alternatives -- particularly 1. Ba4 and 1. Kd4 -- don't work.

Jul-26-14  Xeroxx: nice mate coming up.
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