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Samuel Schweber vs Boris Spassky
Wch U20 final-A (1955), Antwerp BEL, rd 1, Jul-29
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Bernstein Defense (E59)  ·  0-1

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Jan-31-17  scormus: <Abdel Irada> Thanks, I'm glad I now know the reason ;)
Jan-31-17
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  gawain: Not much to say about this one. I don't know if Qh1+ or Rd1 was the more obvious move. As it happens I tried Rd1 first.
Jan-31-17  YetAnotherAmateur: 35. ... Rd1 is the winning move. The rook is immune from capture due to the threat of Qg2#.

One possible finish:
35. ... Rd1 36. Ra2 (to prevent Qg2#) Qh1+ 37. Kf2 Qxf1+ 38. Ke3 Qf3#

Jan-31-17  YetAnotherAmateur: Another couple of lines:
35. ... Rd1 36. Kf2 Qc2+ 37. Ke3 (Kg1? Qg2#) Rxf1 and white cannot prevent Rf3# (I particularly like how the c5 pawn is key to this one working).

35. ... Rd1 36. Rf3 Qxf3 37. Qxd1 Qxd1+ 38. Kf2 Qf3+ 39. Ke1 (Kg1? Qg2#) Qg2 and all white can do is sit around helplessly while the black queen and bishop finish him off.

Jan-31-17
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  Bubo bubo: 35...Rd1! wins the queen for a rook, since 36.Qxd1 would allow Qg2#.
Jan-31-17  stst: <So, Spassky tomorrow?> Yes, pl.
One champ (well, not to "discriminat," also the notable and respected ones: esp. the "neo-classicals" - examples?: like Keres, Rubinstein, Tartakower, Tarrasch, and many...) a week - dig out their gems and share!!
Jan-31-17  Marmot PFL: 35...Rd1, good mon solution.

assuming Spassky is about to go as they are using his games for puzzle material this week.

Jan-31-17
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  drollere: i think the deeper point of "easy to solve" positions is that by the time we get to the position offered, there are often multiple paths to victory.

even Qh1+ followed by Qxh2+ is hardly bad for black, just not as precise as the alternatives.

the real puzzle isn't how you drop the ax, but how you got your opponent's head on the block.

Jan-31-17  swclark25: How winning was Black after 34)...Qe4? Would 35)Re3, or anything else, have given White a chance at this point?
Jan-31-17  catlover: <swclark25> <How winning was Black after 34)...Qe4?>

Very winning, apparently. After 23...Qe4, Stockfish suggests throwing away white's rook with 35. Rf3 Qxf3 36. Qxf3 Bxf3.

I like Schweiber's move 35. Bf4 because it gave us a nice Tuesday puzzle. Besides that, Spassky wins, but in a much more aesthetically pleasing way.

Jan-31-17  catlover: If 35. Re3, what happens is 35...Qh1+ 36. Kf2 Rf8+ 37. Ke1 Qxf1+ 38. Kd2 Rf2+ 39. Re2 Qxe2+ 40. Kc3 Qc2#
Jan-31-17  swclark25: <catlover> thanks for the continuation. I got the puzzle, but as a learner, I also like to look for improvements to earlier moves by the losing side (i.e. identify the turning point). Black seemed to be the attacker for most of the game.
Jan-31-17  BOSTER: Maybe 19.Bg5 to unite the rooks was more attractive for white.
Jan-31-17  MaczynskiPratten: <al wazir><abdel irada><scormus> Similarly, I think it was Spielmann who once said of Alekhine, "I can see the same combinations as him, but I can't get into the same positions".
Jan-31-17  morfishine: <scormus> In my first tournament in the mid 1980's (Orlando Open) I was paired with the previous year's winner (just my luck) section 1700

I had just this opportunity against him and slyly moved my rook to the b-file to threaten the same theme

Of course, he retreated a rook to his back rank to block, thus denying me properly earned glory

My question: How does a 1700 player see it, but here, an IM overlooks this possibility?

*****

Jan-31-17
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  Fusilli: <You need to go up against these pampered goldfish we call "grandmasters," and then surely you will reach similar positions. ;-)>

lol. When I learned to play Oh Hell (a card game that involves bids), I made mediocre bids every hand. My poor bidding disoriented the player sitting next to me (who had to bid after me), and at some point he said "I am losing because you play badly!" In that case, there was some truth to his statement!

Jan-31-17  The Kings Domain: Sweet puzzle. Nice win by the young Spassky.
Feb-01-17  scormus: <morfishine> How does a 1700 player see ....? Obviously, he was a dark horse. You were unlucky to be up against a GM masquerading as an amateur
Feb-01-17
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  Fusilli: <morf> The last 5-6 moves are white's total debacle anyway... can't blame his last move. 35.Bf4 defends against Qh1+ followed by Rf8+. There's no defense against both threats. Maybe he did see it, and let Spassky shine.
Feb-01-17
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  kevin86: white to be mated.
Apr-17-17  zb2cr: Thought I remembered seeing this before, fairly recently. 35. ... Rd1 wins decisive material.
Apr-17-17  stacase: What, Monday and no Queen sacrifice? Took a very few seconds to see the Rook for the Queen and a won game.
Apr-17-17  Strelets: <stacase> Nope, looks like we've got a rook drop this time. Out of pure force of habit I tried to find ways to sacrifice the queen. That lasted for maybe ten seconds before I snapped out of it and found that ...Rd1 wins more or less by force.
Apr-17-17  ChessHigherCat: <Strelets: <stacase> Nope, looks like we've got a rook drop this time. Out of pure force of habit I tried to find ways to sacrifice the queen. That lasted for maybe ten seconds before I snapped out of it and found that ...Rd1 wins more or less by force.> It's always better to sacrifice the opponent's queen :-)
Apr-17-17  Strelets: <ChessHigherCat> No argument from me on that.
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