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| Mar-23-12 | | RookFile: In the Spassky game, Petrosian has pawns on d4 and e4, without the slightest pressure on them. I guess that's the key point. |
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Mar-24-12
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Agreed, it's hard to find Petrosian losses as White of that description - although Petrosian vs Kholmov, 1951 at move 13, or Petrosian vs Averbakh, 1950 at move 9, might come close. If you accept <pawns on d5 and e4> instead, there are probably a few more losses. Petrosian didn't lose many games as White to begin with, so the whole point seems a bit moot |
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| Mar-24-12 | | RookFile: So how would you beat Petrosian as black? The answer is certainly beyond my chess understanding. |
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| Mar-24-12 | | SChesshevsky: <<So how would you beat Petrosian as black?>> Petrosian was definitely tough to beat.
I think Fischer in the 70's saw that one had a chance as Petrosian often gave up space and accepted cramped positions, even as White, looking for the opponent to over extend. With the advantage in space there's time to set up the pieces for a Black positive opening of lines, usually on the Qside. But to convert the advantage looks to take some time and postional accuracy and for most players it probably wasn't worth the risks. I'm guessing Fischer took great notice of the Petrosian-Larsen 1966 game noted earlier. |
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| Jul-18-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 33 Bb3!! looks like a final attack worthy of Bobby Fischer. As well as threatening to take a piece on f6 it threatens to start a winning attack on the f7 pawn and Spassky resigns in the end when he is unable to defend the threatened attack. |
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| Jul-23-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Petrosian vs Spassky, 1966.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF PETROSIAN.
Your score: 69 (par = 68)
LTJ |
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| Oct-25-13 | | Everett: <Ulhumbrus: 33 Bb3!! looks like a final attack worthy of...> Tigran Petrosian! |
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Oct-25-13
 | | offramp: When Spassky played 1...b5 the six Poles in the audience let out a massive cheer. |
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| Jun-02-14 | | TheTamale: <offramp>: I imagine so! But for Spassky's backer's, however, it was a different story. |
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| Jan-08-15 | | GoldenBird: <offramp> Why six poles? |
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| Jan-08-15 | | DWINS: <GoldenBird: <offramp> Why six poles?> I believe it's a joke based on the opening played in this game. |
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| Jan-11-15 | | GoldenBird: <DWINS> k |
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| Sep-09-15 | | thegoodanarchist: 1...b4 smacks of desperation on the part of Spassky, which is a reasonable conclusion based on his point standing in the match at the time. |
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| Sep-09-15 | | thegoodanarchist: <offramp: When Spassky played 1...b5 the six Poles in the audience let out a massive cheer.> Professor von Nozzen did extensive research on this match for his article in the Journal of Professional Gaming, published by the Malaysian Society of Recreation. The Polish contingent were on work-release passes, taking their weekly break from the manufacture of sardine cans for the Soviet fishing industry. Prof. von Nozzen uncovered a little-known fact: the Polish contingent was actually comprised of 5 Poles and a Lithuanian chap who had married a Polish woman. |
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Sep-25-15
| | offramp: In Karpov vs Miles, 1980 Miles reached this position, as black, after 3...Bb7:
click for larger viewIn this game, Spassky reached a similar position, after 3...a6
click for larger view |
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| Nov-28-15 | | Ulhumbrus: The move 3 f3 following the move 1...b5 suggests that White answers eccentric play on Black's part with play that is direct, solid and conservative. |
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May-10-16
| | offramp: As I said before, it is weird how the great unwashed have flipped their collective lids about the opening of Karpov vs Miles, 1980 - 1.e4 a6 (8 pages of kibitzing), and kept their lids on for this game. This was a World Championship game, after all. |
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May-10-16
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This was a World Championship game, after all.> The great unwashed only flip for crap defenses when they work. Compare the 8 pages of kibitzes for the Skara game with the kibitzing for these games featuring equally crap defenses: Karpov vs Miles, 1977
Karpov vs Miles, 1992 |
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| May-10-16 | | AlicesKnight: Perhaps a comparison with the 14th game of the 1966 match has some relevance (2. .... b5). Horowitz comments that Spassky tried unconventional approaches after his first win in game 13 as a means of trying to make progress, and would agree with <Ulhumbrus> that Petrosian's answer was to play safe and solid. |
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| Sep-30-16 | | Aunt Jemima: 2...b5! I never realized that Spassky was so adventurous and courageous, even reckless. And to think, this held a draw in a world championship game. |
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| Apr-28-20 | | joddon: im developing ideas behind this opening and I hate it for white.....the middle game is stuck unless white changes the table with his queen as he does by bringing it to f2, where it has more options of play.....the a file has a vigilant force for pieces to work on , however black has to keep its options open for counter attacks....great game nontheless |
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| Nov-08-20 | | YoungEd: Fans of symmetry are disappointed that Petrosian didn't play 10. h4. |
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Oct-11-21
 | | kingscrusher: 32.bxc5 stands out to me as a very concrete move, showing that Checkmate ends the game, and concrete moves tend to "throw concrete" at the opponent rather painfully instead of being concerned about how neat pawns look :) |
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| Feb-03-24 | | Olavi: After 17...e5 it is a completely normal Breyer Ruy Lopez... |
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| Feb-12-25 | | generror: Not sure if it was the great idea, but man, I gotta admire Spassky for playing something like 1...b5 in this decisive game for the World Championship. That guy had balls of steel. (But what do you expect from a King's Gambit player.) I recently analyzed the Polish Opening and realized it is actually pretty good, also in its various guises as early b4/...b5 variations in established openings. Not 100% sound, and understandably nothing a normal super-GM whose income depends on his results would play, but it leads to weird positions which your opponent probably isn't too familiar with. I have even come to have some respect for its mirror image, the infamous Grob Attack XD |
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