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Boris Spassky vs Wolfgang Uhlmann
Manila Interzonal (1976), Manila PHI, rd 1, Jun-13
French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation General (C16)  ·  1-0

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Jan-16-17  ChessHigherCat: <Retireborn:
10...Qxe5 11.Ba3 Bd7 12.Rfe1! and now;
(i) 12...Qc7 13.Bxc6 bxc6 14.Bxe7 Kxe7 15.Nf5+ is near-winning for White>

Sorry, even with the solution I still don't get it. 15. Nf5+ exf5 16. Qg7 Rf8 17. e6?

Jan-16-17
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  Retireborn: <ChessHigherCat> 15...exf5 ought not to be legal with the rook on e1. Houdini suggests 15...Kd8 16.Qxg7 Re8 17.Qf6+ Kc8 18.Qxf7 as winning.
Jan-16-17  ChessHigherCat: Okay, I see, in your variation BxN, KxB and there's no more pin. That's the last time I'm going to try to analyze chess and work at the same time.
Jan-17-17  Howard: Well, it beats analyzing chess while driving at the same time.
Jan-17-17  ChessHigherCat: <Howard: Well, it beats analyzing chess while driving at the same time> According to modern best practices, the optimal approach is to drive while watching the game live on your onboard TV, discussing each move with your friends on your cellphone and simultaneously posting comments on chessgames.com.
Jan-17-17  Howard: Shhhhhhhh! Watch what you say! You wanna give some idiots out there any ideas?!

Frankly, I wouldn't be TOO surprised if some people consider that approach that you just described.

Jan-17-17  ChessHigherCat: Especially since the state traffic police are unlikely to be sympathetic (they tend to favor dwarf-tossing over chess).
Mar-24-17  Howard: Can't believe that no one else has caught this typo on MY part, but the move I mentioned back in January was 11.Ba3----"11.Bh3" wouldn't have been possible.

Just noticed that ! It was my mistake.

Jul-22-17  Howard: An issue from "CL&R" in 1979 stated that current theory (in 1979, mind you!) said that 6...Nbc6 was considered best for Black, keeping his options open.

Anyone know NOW what theory states?

Jul-22-17
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  Retireborn: Mednis thought that 6...Nbc6 was best after using it to beat Sax in a 1976 game, and certainly GMs like Short, Vaganian, and Psakhis have also played it.

On the other hand there can't be much wrong with 6...cxd4. I think it's unlikely that "theory" can give a definitive answer at such an early stage, especially as 5.Qg4 isn't the main line (or is it? I don't keep up with the latest practice.)

Jul-22-17
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  perfidious: <Retireborn....I think it's unlikely that "theory" can give a definitive answer at such an early stage, especially as 5.Qg4 isn't the main line (or is it? I don't keep up with the latest practice.)>

This has never been a main line, though old foe John A Curdo specialised in it--believe we had at least one game featuring the line.

Jul-22-17
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  Retireborn: <perfidious> So you were a French sufferer, too? Still, at least I wasn't addicted to the Latvian Gambit or something like that.
Apr-05-18  Howard: There was an obvious typo in a comment I posted about 15 months ago, but no one has mentioned it. Personally, I just noticed it!

I obviously meant that 11.Ba3 would have been "unpleasant".

Apr-05-18
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  ZonszeinP: What a simple ending!

In Spassky's hands

Apr-05-18
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  perfidious: <Retireborn: <perfidious> So you were a French sufferer, too?>

Along with other forms of monumental foolishness--I was not one to get stuck playing merely one opening, but had to spread my masochism round a mite.

<....Still, at least I wasn't addicted to the Latvian Gambit or something like that.>

Good thing, for that should have qualified you as a hopeless case.

Apr-05-18
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  Domdaniel: *Nobody* really understands the French Winawer ...
Apr-05-18
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  offramp: <perfidious: ...Along with other forms of monumental foolishness--I was not one to get stuck playing merely one opening, but had to spread my masochism round a mite.>

As a player I have always liked Sam Sloan. But he has handicapped himself by playing the definitely garbage Damiano Defence as Black; he also plays the Grob frequently as White, which is not so bad. In fact Michael John Basman plays the Grob. But wouldn't both of them have done better by playing sensible openings? That's what a British GM said of Basman.

Apr-05-18  N0B0DY: Game Collection: N0B0DY really understands the French Winawer ...
Apr-05-18
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  perfidious: <offramp>, that may well be true of Basman; at international level, his tendencies towards offbeat openings were probably too great a handicap.

Sloan, at a humbler level? Perhaps not so much: in my view, too many amateurs worry over cutting edge theory when they should be simply playing, learning what suits their tastes and steer games towards their strengths.

Apr-06-18
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  Domdaniel: In the 1960s, Botvinnik said that Basman was the most promising British player. This may have been a deliberate snub to Ray Keene, to whom Botvinnik had lost after a blunder.
Apr-06-18
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  AylerKupp: <<Howard> Well, it beats analyzing chess while driving at the same time.>

I don't know, it would certainly make the driving experience more "exciting". Which reminds me of a review that Consumers Report gave to the old Ford Maverick many years ago calling their braking "excitingly unstable".

Apr-07-18
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  Domdaniel: <N0b0dy> That's a great idea for a game collection, but I think you could add many more games to "N0b0dy understands the French Winawer"...
Jul-24-18  Howard: Someday, I gotta take a good look at the opening to this game, using the extensive notes that Gligoric gave in the November, 1976 issue of CL&R.

Exactly where did Uhlmann go wrong? Gligoric's rather vague on that question.

May-14-19  Howard: A blog at the Charlotte Chess Center argues that 5...Nf5 is perfectly acceptable, rather than 5...c5.
Dec-21-19  Howard: British Chess Magazine states that 9...Bxc3 (in order to win White's e-pawn) is of dubious value.
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