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Rudolf Spielmann vs Ladislav Prokes
Prague (1908), Prague AUH, rd 2, May-19
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Bardeleben Variation (C29)  ·  1-0



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Nov-10-05  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Black could win here.
Nov-10-05  CapablancaFan: <Autoreparaturwerkbau> LOL. You're joking right? How? Black's position was lost by move 17. Please tell us how black gets out of his predicament.Lol.
Dec-03-06  Amarande: Yes, Black is lost after 17 Rad1. He need not have succumbed as quickly as in the game, but none of his alternatives are really all that much better e.g. -

a) 17 ... Qf7 (in order to retain the Q on defense, rather than basically sending her away) 18 Bc4 Qg7 19 Qd3. What can Black do now? He cannot move his QR, and his KR is no better at f8 than at h8. The Queen can do precious little either (19 ... Qxe5 fails to 20 Bd4) and the Knight cannot move because Qd7 leads to a mate; nor can the Queen watch d7, because the Bishop must watch d8, and if 19 ... Bh4 20 g3 and the B must return to e7. White can simply bring up his forces for the final assault and there is nothing Black can do.

b) 18 ... 0-0 19 Be6+ Kh8 20 Rxf8+ Bxf8 21 Rd8 and Black must give up the Rook by 21 ... Nd7 to prevent immediate mate.

However, Black need not have grabbed the d-pawn immediately at move 15, and if he had played the simple 15 ... Nc6 instead (but not 15 ... 0-0?? 16 Bc4), he should have turned out better, as White is already down a pawn and has difficulties with d4 as well, while the attack basically disappears once Black gets 0-0-0 in (which cannot really be prevented).

E.g., 15 ... Nc6 16 Bb5 0-0-0 17 Bxc6 Qxc6 18 Be3 Qe4 and Black has rather the better of it with pressure on White's Pawns, better Bishop, and of course the extra pawn ...

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  plang: A nice miniature. Spielmann's queen maneuvers, in particular, are quite clever.
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  louispaulsen88888888: I think the first comment is correct. Black could win here. I believe Autoreparatwerkbau was referring to the opening, where, had black played 9...Nc6, he would have a winning position.
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