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Rudolf Spielmann vs Max Walter
Trencianske Teplice (1928), Trencianske Teplice CSR, May-??
Caro-Kann Defense: Two Knights Attack (B10)  ·  1-0

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Mar-03-08
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  Domdaniel: <Jim Bartle> The evasive obfuscatory language of bureaucrats and politicians everywhere is always reprehensible. The same applies to those who use polysyllables to sound more intelligent or educated. Oops.

But 'plain English' can be overdone: interestingly, yours isn't all that plain or simple. "I tend to the view" is a nice stylistic flourish, and arguably more precise than "I think" or "I believe" (or even the dastardly "IMHO") - but is it the simplest phrase possible?

Mar-03-08
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  Domdaniel: <zb2cr> Thanks for both the comment and the translation, incidentally.
Mar-03-08  Riverbeast: Buckley was a pompous blowhard...I noticed that once you managed to hack through the smoke and mirrors of his unnecessarily obscure language, you suddenly realized that he wasn't really saying anything at all
Mar-03-08
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  johnlspouge: <<JG27Pyth> wrote: In the country of the blind midgets I am the one-eyed dwarf king. [snip] But, all this puzzle solving and kibitzing and analyzing candidate moves has actually taught me the value of aggressive play.>

I am trying to picture the quivering schmo who has been paired to play against a one-eyed dwarf foaming at the mouth. I am sure you did just fine... ;>)

Mar-03-08  HNP: Thanks for Spielmann's annotations, <zb2cr>.
Mar-03-08  012: Sunday puzzle <28. ...?> Mar-02-08 Smirin vs Beliavsky, 1989
Mar-03-08  just a kid: Simple as pie.
Mar-03-08  Madman99X: Surely 11... g5 offers better resistance than the text.
Mar-03-08  UdayanOwen: <alexrawlings: UdayanOwen:
If 8...cxd4, probably white instead plays something like 9.Qb5+ Bd7 10.exf7+ Kxf7 11.Qxd5+ Kd8 12.Qxa8

I think from your line <UdayanOwen>, black would play 10.. Qxd7 to keep the castling option open and I'm not sure if White would be much stronger...>

But how is 10...Qxd7 even possible? The King on e8 is in check from the pawn on f7. And in any case, the black bishop is on d7 so how could black capture on that square? I hope you didn't mean 9...Qd7, which of course would lose the queen to 10.exd7 .

Mar-03-08  Jim Bartle: "Buckley was a pompous blowhard...I noticed that once you managed to hack through the smoke and mirrors of his unnecessarily obscure language, you suddenly realized that he wasn't really saying anything at all"

Agreed.

His spats with Gore Vidal were great, though.

Mar-04-08  krippp: <zb2cr> Thank you for Spielmann's analysis. His heavy critique of the move <7...c5> left me troubled, however, and I had to try to poke a hole into Spielmann's opinion with the help of a silicone friend, Rybka 2.3.2. :)

First of all, <7...e6> was not the one and only good move. This is Rybka's top5 after <7.Nd4>:

<
7...e6 is 0.27 @ 18ply
7...g6 is 0.28 @ 18ply
7...Qc7 is 0.35 @ 18ply
7...Ba6 is 0.39 @ 18ply
7...Qd7 is 0.45 @ 18ply
>

So at least <7...g6> was a viable option as well. If then <8.e6>, black just plays <8...Bg7>, and the top5 looks like:

<
9.Bf4 is 0.23 @ 18ply
9.g3 is 0.09 @ 18ply
9.exf7+ is 0.05 @ 18ply
9.Bg5 is 0.03 @ 18ply
9.h4 is 0.03 @ 18ply
>

Meaning a pretty much equal position.

---------

And now onto <7...c5> itself. After white's best move, <8.e6!>, Rybka thinks:

<
8...a6! is 0.60 @ 18ply
8...Bxe6 is 0.91 @ 18ply
8...fxe6 is 1.12 @ 18ply
>

Thus it seems like Spielmann did miss black's best reply, <8...a6!>, prompting <9.exf7+ Kxf7 10.Nf3>, and now Rybka says:

<
10...Nc6 is 0.62 @ 18ply
10...Kg8 is 0.95 @ 18ply
10...Ra7 is 0.98 @ 18ply
10...Ke8 is 0.99 @ 18ply
10...Qe8 is 1.11 @ 18ply
>

And after <10...Nc6>, the game becomes less forcing, with black still alive.

In conclusion, I'd give 7...c5 a ?! maybe, but not ?. The real mistake was <8...fxe6?>, and would have been Spielmann's suggestion of <8...Bxe6?> as well.

Mar-04-08  krippp: Haha...
I must withdraw some of my critique of Spielmann's analysis; he actually beat Rybka (and me) here!

This is what I just found out will happen after <8...a6!?>:

<9.Qf3>
Now all three candidate replies,
<
9...Bxe6
9...f6
9...fxe6
>

will lead to an inferior position, but the thing that was missed was, that after <9...fxe6 10.Qh5+ Kd7>, the wonderful knight-sac

<11.Nxe6!> will almost certainly win by force.

So sorry, Spielmann, the master of sacrifices, for ever doubting you. ;)

Mar-04-08  zb2cr: <kripp>,

Don't feel bad. Spielmann made a career out of riding those sacrifices that run just on the edge of things you should be able to calculate--and in the process, made fools of better men than you or I.

Nov-22-10  sevenseaman: Spielman's ability to see 20. Ne6# and sacking his Q to pull Black B out of the protection of e6 is the difference between genius and ordinary thinking.

I saw 20, Ne6 but not 19. Qxc6 in order to attain the mating move.

Mar-08-12  Naniwazu: It's not too difficult for someone of Spielmann's strength to beat a guy like Max Walter. He's nothing more than a club player.
Mar-08-12
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  FSR: <Naniwazu> Walter beat Spielmann in the other game they played, M Walter vs Spielmann, 1932, giving Spielmann an even score against him (the same as Spielmann had against Capablanca!, http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...). In the same tournament as this game, Walter drew as Black against Rubinstein, Reti, and Tartakower. Max Walter I wish <I> could be such a "club player."
Mar-08-12  Naniwazu: <FSR> Those statistics certainly look very convincing. I suppose I'll have to apologize to Mr. Walter for calling him a club player. Then again Fischer once called Lasker a 'coffee-house player'...
Mar-08-12  JoergWalter: Spielmann had this game in his book <RICHTIG OPFERN> to illustrate the effect of a sacrifice which restrains the opponent.

Spielmann annotates:

7....c5? is a mistake e6 must be played.

8.e6! fxe6? 8....Bxe6 is necessary

9.Qh5+ starts the terrible massacre.

Mar-08-12
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  Penguincw: Beautiful final move. A bishop, knight, and two pawns are both needed to cover the squares the king can run through, while a bishop and a couple of pawns block their own king's escape.
Dec-15-14  SpiritedReposte: Very romantic king hunt.
Dec-15-14
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  HeMateMe: He had a Walter Mitty game.
Feb-11-15
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  fm avari viraf: Black succumbed to the series of White's elegant fatal attack that sent the Black King on the road to perdition.
Feb-13-15
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  juan31: A piece of chess art
Jan-17-20
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  GrahamClayton: A pictureseque final position - each of the Black KIng's escape squares is controlled by a different White piece.
Oct-02-20
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  scutigera: scutigera: Everything from move twelve onward is mindboggling - two white pieces wading nonchalantly through almost the entirety of Black's army as if they owned the place.
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