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Feb-10-03 | | ughaibu: Tal's combination beginning at move 33 he said was inspired by a combination that he'd played against Spassky "so we see how some combinations are born" I think he said. I haven't been able to find the Spassky game yet but about that one Tal didn't give a precedent, instead he said "the combination appealled to me on account of it's beauty and originality". An example of Tal choosing art for it's own sake as the combination wasn't the strongest continuation in the Spassky game. The theme in the Karjakin-Kosteniuk game also recalls these combinations of Tal's. |
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Nov-26-04 | | sourcerer: great combo by tal the rook kept prodding black's position . |
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Nov-26-04 | | Hinchliffe: If it isn't too much trouble would a kind soul with a computer program please take a look at 35 ... Kt f8. I figured out that a piece is going down but I was wondering in the greater scheme of things whether the game could be saved after sneaking the king out via h7 etc. Thanks to whoever can help. |
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Nov-26-04 | | crafty: 35...♘f8 36. ♕a8 ♔f7 37. ♖xf8+ ♔g6 38. ♕e8+ ♔h6 39. ♕e3 (eval 3.58; depth 13 ply; 500M nodes) |
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Nov-26-04 | | Marco65: Even if the black king is without shield of pawns, it is difficult to me to think there was no hope for Black. For instance what if 43...Ne7 ? |
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Nov-26-04 | | mjk: <Marco65> 43...♘e7 44.d5+ wins material with the mate threat. |
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Nov-26-04 | | Slayer772002: What was the intention of 30. h6 ? Open the h-file ? |
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Nov-26-04 | | fgh: <ughaibu>: I think it was Spassky vs Tal, 1979. |
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Nov-26-04 | | mjk: <Slayer772002> Looks pretty subtle. Maybe, since the ♙ can't be saved, the idea is to give Black a chance to think and go wrong with 30...gxh6 or 30...g6. Does Informant say anything about 30.h6, anyone? |
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Nov-26-04 | | Marco65: <mjk> 43...Ne7 44.d5+! great idea, if 44...Kc5 45.Qf8 Kd6 46.Re6+ wins a piece, or maybe there is something even better. But 44...Qxd5 45.Rxe7 Qd1+ may lead to perpetual check, or to 46.Kh2 Qh5+ 47.Kg2?? Bd5+ 48.Kf1 Qd1+ 49.Re1 Bc4+ |
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Nov-26-04 | | mjk: <Marco65> 44...♕xd5 45.♕e8+, 46.♕xe7 looks OK. |
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Nov-26-04 | | Marco65: <mjk> Yes it is, thanks |
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Nov-26-04 | | AlfieNoakes: Hello, I'm pretty new to this but, What is wrong with 41...Qc7? |
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Nov-26-04 | | Marco65: 41...Qc7 42.Qxc7 Kxc7 43.Rxe7+ with clear material advantage |
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Nov-26-04
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Nov-26-04 | | themindset: just a technical note, this isn't an english at all, this is a QGD Tarrash. |
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Nov-26-04 | | kevin86: Would the sequel be:
45...♕e7 46 ♖e1+ ♔f7 47 ♕e8# (?) |
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Nov-26-04 | | JohnBoy: <fgh> I am pretty sure that the game in question was Spassky vs Tal, 1973. A beautiful game where T sacrifices to pursue S's K around with R and Q. |
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Nov-27-04 | | ughaibu: Fgh and JohnBoy: It was probably Tal vs Spassky, 1965 both the games you've suggested were played after this one. |
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Nov-27-04 | | JohnBoy: <ughaibu> While aware of the chronological order of the games, I am not convinced. The game you cite has little in common with this. In looking through the record posted here, there are few Tal victories against Spassky to choose from. In posting the above link, I thought that either the actual game is not posted, or the comments of Tal you mention on Feb-10-03 are mistaken. No matter what, the S-T game I posted is a fine game. Check it out. |
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Nov-27-04 | | ughaibu: JohnBoy: look at the position after black's 29th in the 1965 game. White could play Rc6 followed by Ra8, I think the resemblance is clear. I read Tal's comment in the text of a lecture published in Chess in the late 60s, so it definitely wasn't either of your or Fgh's suggestions, fine games though they may be. |
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Nov-27-04 | | JohnBoy: Okay - I see what you are after. Maybe after black's 28th instead of after 29...Kf8, getting the king off of the long diagonal. Fair enough. |
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Dec-21-04 | | patzer2: Tal's 33. Nxd5! is a sharp "pinning" tactic used to achieve a strong (probably winning) advantage. However, I believe a simpler and equally effective alternative was 33. Qf5!, forcing the exchange of Queens for a won endgame. 33. ♘xd5!?
[33. Qf5! Nh4 34. Qxg5 Nf3+ 35. Kg2 Nxg5 36. Rb7 Kf8 37. Rxb6 ] 33. ♘xd5! ♗xd5 (33...Rxd5 34. Rxf7 Kxf7 35. Bxd5+ ) 34. ♖a8! ♕c1+ (34...Bxa2 35. Rxd8+ Kf7 36. Qc6 Ne7 37. Qe8+ is the game continuation) {35. Kg2 Bxa2 36. Rxd8+ Kf7 37. b3 Qe1 38. Rd6 Nf8 39. Qd5+ Kg6 40. g4! h6 41. Qh5+ Kh7 42. Rxf6 (42. Rxb6?? Ng6 43. Qf5 Bb1 44. Re6 Qxe6 45. Qxb1 Qxg4+ ) 42...♕e4+ 43. ♔g3 ♘g6 44. ♕f5 ♕xf5 45. ♖xf5 ♗xb3 46. ♖b5 ♗a4 47. ♖xb6 ♘e7 48. ♖a6 and White has a clear and near decisive endgame advantage. |
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Sep-17-09 | | WhiteRook48: 34 Ra8!! Tal knows how to work the pin |
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Oct-01-09 | | WhiteRook48: why does his Tarrasch start 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5? |
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