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|Dec-17-04|| ||Cyphelium: <captcrisis> Defending looks hard after 19.- Kxh8 20. exf6, for example 20.- Ng6 21. Qh5+ Kg8 22. Rbf1 and the mate on g7 is unavoidable (22.- Nxf4 23. Qh6). Or 20.- Qd5 21. fxe7 Rg8 22. Rxf7+ Kh8 23. Qf1, threatening both 24. Rb5 and 24. Qf6+. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||mahmoudkubba: I can see that black starts really giving the gifts in move 14-...O-O while the white rook r in a dangerous position also the white queen can easily reach the black king while the black queen is far away from military fighting position of the situation..! |
|Dec-17-04|| ||Nickisimo: Very strange game...although Tal rarely did anything quietly on a chessboard. The pawn doubling in the opening is alright I suppose, but the destruction of Black's kingside pawns really made it happen. I was impressed with 21. Qc1, since 21. Qg5+?? Ng6, and then White has to worry about ...Qxb1+(leading to back-rank mate), and even if he could get away with Bxg6, after ...fxg6, White has absolutely nothing to show for his two pieces. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||Nickisimo: <Cyphelium>, yes after 20. exf6, Black can do little to stop White's attack on the open g and h files. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||panigma: Let's ask LifeMasterAJ if he thinks Tal's play is sound. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||panigma: Why are some openings named for black's choice of defense and others for white's choice of offense? What is the criteria? |
|Dec-17-04|| ||JohnBoy: The distinction is at what point the line commences, and what the goal is. Take, for example, the Yugoslav attack of the Dragon variation of the Sicilian defense. Black plays a certain defense (Sicilian) and opts for the Dragon variation. White then chooses a particular structure primarily for attacking purposes. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||Nickisimo: <JohnBoy and panigma> It can be strange though...for instance the French Defense is employed by Black, but White calls most of the shots in how the game is going to be played(3. Nc3, 3. Nd2, 3. e5, etc.). Some "attacks" are equally dependent on how Black responds. The Gran Prix Attack can be met with a quiet move like (2...e6 or 2...Nc6) but I've seen people play 2...d4 and completely change how that opening is played. Interesting note: 1. e4 c5(Sicilan DEFENSE), 2. f4(Gran Prix ATTACK)...so they can quickly go from one to the other. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||kevin86: This game is surgery of the most unkind kind!! With every sacrifice,black's position is opened further. The open king is then easy to attack--and black's pieces are helpless to assist. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||Knight13: These sacrifices are too well. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||BlazingArrow56: Man I thought I was retarded for not seeing the forced mate/win after Kxh7. Chessmaster shows it to be a draw until the little Mate08 shows up. After Kxh7 Qh5+ Kg8 White actually has time to save his rook with Rg1 and then Black is helpless. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||ruylopez900: The sacrificial attack was quite nice. Very out of the blue, very effective, very nice looking. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||alyoshakaramazov: I think I enjoy 17. ♖b1 the best. It looks like some patzer trying some futile move to chase away the queen, but actually frees the c1 square for 21. ♕c1!. I wonder how Gedevanishvili analyzed things at move 17; he undoubtedly had more intelligent thoughts than I would have (e.g. "uh, gee, a free pawn. How nice."). 17. ♖b1 is a most sinister "quiet" move. |
|Dec-17-04|| ||patzer2: Tal initiates a classic "demolition of pawn structure" combination with 18. Nf6+!! |
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6
[18...Kh8 19. Nxh7 Nd5 (19...Rd8 20. Nf6 gxf6 21. exf6 Ng6 22. Qh5+ Kg8 23. Qh6 Qxb1+ 24. Bf1 ) 20. Rh4 Kg8 21. Nxf8 ]
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6 19. ♗xh7+! ♔h8
[19...Kxh7 20. Qh5+ Kg8 (20...Kg7+ 21. exf6+ Kg8 22. Rg1 Qxc2 23. Rh4 )
21. Rbf1 Ng6 (21...fxe5 22. Rh4 ; 21...f5 22. Rh4 ; 21...Rd8 22. exf6 Rd6 23. fxe7 Bf5 24. Rh4 Kg7 25. Qxf5 Rh6 26. Qg5+ Rg6 27. Qh5 f5 28. Qxf5 Rh6 29. Qf8+ Rxf8 30. exf8+Q Kg6 31. Qxh6#) 22. exf6 Qe6 23. Qh6 ]
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6 19. ♗xh7+! ♔h8 20. ♗d3
[Tal's 20. Rh4! also wins after 20...fxe5 (20...Kg7 21. Qc1! wins as in the game continuation) 21. Qc1! Ng6 (21...Rd8 22. Rb3 Qa5 23. Bd3+ Kg8 24. Rh8+ Kxh8 25. Qh6+ Kg8 26. Bh7+ Kh8 27. Bg6+ Kg8 28. Qh7+ Kf8 29. Qxf7#) 22. Bxg6+ Kg7 23. Qh6+ Kf6 24. Bxf7+ Kxf7 25. Rf1+ ]
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6 19. ♗xh7+! ♔h8 20. ♗d3 f5
[20...Rd8 21. exf6 Ng6 (21...Rd5 22. fxe7 ) 22. Qh5+ Kg8 23. Qh6 Qxb1+ 24. Bf1 ]
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6 19. ♗xh7+! ♔h8 20. ♗d3 f5 21. ♗c4! ♕xc4
[21...Qa3 22. Qh5+ Kg7 23. Rh4 ]
18. ♘f6+!! gxf6 19. ♗xh7+! ♔h8 20. ♗d3 f5 21. ♗c4! ♕xc4 22. ♖h4+ ♔g7 23. ♕h5 ♖d8 24. ♕h6+ ♔g8 25. ♕h8#
|Dec-17-04|| ||ajile: Two obvious mistakes by Black. Queen out early gets chased then takes a worthless pawn wasting time. |
|Dec-18-04|| ||ruylopez900: <ajile> Classic "Poisoned Pawn" theme with the Queen out being chased after and before winning a pawn (ie in the Winawer and in the Nadjorf)|
<patzer2> Is that all original analysis? If so keep up the good work, very in depth.
|Dec-20-04|| ||ArturoRivera: mm, i hope Master Aj does not see this game, he will come by saying it is unsound |
|Dec-20-04|| ||keypusher: Qdysseus tells the story of the Trojan Horse to the Phaecians in the Odyssey. But the line about fearing Greeks even when they bear gifts does not appear. As several have pointed out, that line is from Vergil. |
|Dec-20-04|| ||AdrianP: <Baranduin> <AdrianP> <It is timeo Danaos et dona ferentEs not timeo Danaos et dona ferentIs.>|
<Platonov> <Yes, Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes -- plur. acc.!>
"-is" (rather than "-es") is an (archaic) alternative form of the third declension accusative plural, which Vergil used frequently to give the Aeneid an epic/archaic/Ennian flavour. I know the quote as "dona ferent*is* - and I think that is what is in the Oxford Classical Text.
All the online texts I have looked at have "dona ferent*is*" rather than "dona ferent*es*" http://virgil.org/ ; http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/verg... ; http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bi...
"-is" and "-es" are metrically identical, so it's not possible to distinguish in that way.
|Dec-20-04|| ||morostyle: my godness "Mikhail Tal" what a incredible chess artist he is AMAZING he plays chess from another world i have to check more games of him and study him a lot and try on my self the one or other ideas from him to shock my neighbour when we have next game hehehehe Mikhail Tal=Chess Artist |
|Dec-20-04|| ||euripides: <Adrian, baranuduin> Mynors' OCT has ferentis, with no reference to manuscript variants in the apparatus. |
|Dec-20-04|| ||AdrianP: <Euripides> Thanks - I thought so. |
|Jan-15-05|| ||sheaf: great game |
|Jan-15-05|| ||aw1988: This is truly the play of a wise man (pun intended). |
|Sep-04-13|| ||keypusher: <BlazingArrow56: Man I thought I was retarded for not seeing the forced mate/win after Kxh7. Chessmaster shows it to be a draw until the little Mate08 shows up. After Kxh7 Qh5+ Kg8 White actually has time to save his rook with Rg1 and then Black is helpless.>|
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It's worth pausing over this combination. I just played over this game. After 18.Nf6+ gf, Bxh7+ is the obvious followup. I stared at the position for a long time, but I couldn't find the forced mate after 19....Kxh7 20.Qh5+ Kg8. It's hard to believe that White, after sacrificing two pieces, can use a precious tempo to basically take a third piece out of play.
<alyoshakaramazov> <I wonder how Gedevanishvili analyzed things at move 17; he undoubtedly had more intelligent thoughts than I would have (e.g. "uh, gee, a free pawn. How nice.")>
I'm sure his thought was: "I've got to keep this rook under attack so I can tie down his queen." It wasn't just a blind pawn grab, in other words.
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