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Mikhail Tal vs Dmitry Gedevanishvili
"One Gift After Another" (game of the day Dec-17-2004)
GEO-ch (1970), Poti URS, rd 13
Alekhine Defense: Saemisch Attack (B02)  ·  1-0

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Dec-23-03  Minor Piece Activity: "One Gift After Another"- A Christmas theme!
Dec-23-03
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  Benzol: <Minor Piece Activity> Try this game for gifts.Portisch vs Tal, 1964
Dec-23-03  Catfriend: Magic...
BTW, 14..N:d4?? loses to 15.Ne4! with such evil schemes as 15..Qc7 16.Nd6+! with death to f7
Dec-23-03
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  kevin86: I hate to be old Scrooge,but I don't see "one gift after another" here. Just a couple of pawns and a knight! Anderssen gave these away in his sleep.Note:Scrooge,the new one,was unique in Dickens' works. Virtually all of his characters were dour! Scrooge stood out for his caring and generousity.
Dec-23-03  Catfriend: <kevin86> You can be Scrooge as you want, but be a chess-correct one...:) B:h7+ is surely a gift...
"Fear the Danais, even when they give gifts" (A wrong cite from Homeros) So we have Nf6+!!, B:h7+!!, Rf4! (which grants, as I said above, d4), and we have a2 dead for tempo (This, I agree, isn't a great and amazing sac..) While each of these isn't so great, the game at it's full is quite impressive. I know even I could find the final sac (I found moves like Nf6+ some few times), I surely could give away a2, maybe even I could glance and see why 14..N:d4?? loses.. but (1) not in one game, and (2) the greatness of attackers is not only their sacing ability but the power to get good positions to sacrifice! I say "even I" since I'm pretty inexperienced (16) and surely not a prodigy!
Dec-23-03  euripides: I think you mean Virgil.
Dec-23-03  AdrianP: <Catfriend> <Euripides> "...timeo Danaos et dona ferentis." (Virgil's Aeneid line 2.49) = "I fear the Greeks even when they bear gifts" (the words are spoken by Laocoon).

<Euripides> I take it you have a classical background, hence the username...?

Dec-23-03  euripides: AdrianP - et nos consilium dedimus Sullae.
Dec-23-03  waddayaplay: What's so amazing (if we go back to the game) is how Tal always found those positions where he could sacrifice... sound...!
Dec-23-03  Catfriend: <AdrianP> I know Virgil said it.. but I also know he wasn't the first - Homeros said it(I don't remember them all by heart).

<waddayaplay> I think he didn't consider them sound.. AND THAT'S WHY HE PLAYED THEM! LOL

Dec-23-03
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  kevin86: Last night I played an on-line game-and it came to this:WKf6 Ra1 Pa7,g6;BK g8 Ra8----after 76 moves,I made the horrible blunder of moving my king to g6,and my opponent RESIGNED!-now that was a gift---all he had to do was to sac his rook at a7;If I captured,it was stalemate and if I made another move ,he could play Rxg7 and draw! I know now that I should have straddled the seventh rank to get to b7!
Dec-23-03  MoonlitKnight: This one transposed into the French advance variation, an opening after which black must defend with great accuracy. Gedevanishvili castled into his own death and should have known better against a player like Tal.
Dec-23-03  Taidanii: Black had to have seen those series of moves. I remain in denial of such blindness.
Dec-24-03  AdrianP: <Catfriend> Not the Homer that I've read ;-) <euripides> et in Arcadia ego
Dec-17-04  DanielBryant: Beware of Tal bearing gifts.
Dec-17-04  BaranDuin: <AdrianP> It is timeo Danaos et dona ferentEs not timeo Danaos et dona ferentIs.
Dec-17-04  ArturoRivera: playing the Alekhine against Tal?, IS A SUICIDE!
Dec-17-04  platonov: Yes, Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes -- plur. acc.! And i think it was Vergilius who wrote this, not Homeros, cause the Ilias ends with Hector's death... it was Vergilius in the Aeneis who finished this story in latin language. Needless to say, that stupid movie with Brad Pitt has nothing in common with the blind greek.
Dec-17-04  captcrisis: Why not 19 ...Kg8xh7? It gets rid of the pesky bishop, allows the rook to scoot behind, and Black still has available the knight to run interference. Was it a mistake not to do this?
Dec-17-04  Cyphelium: <captcrisis> Defending looks hard after 19.- Kxh8 20. exf6, for example 20.- Ng6 21. Qh5+ Kg8 22. Rbf1 and the mate on g7 is unavoidable (22.- Nxf4 23. Qh6). Or 20.- Qd5 21. fxe7 Rg8 22. Rxf7+ Kh8 23. Qf1, threatening both 24. Rb5 and 24. Qf6+.
Dec-17-04
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  mahmoudkubba: I can see that black starts really giving the gifts in move 14-...O-O while the white rook r in a dangerous position also the white queen can easily reach the black king while the black queen is far away from military fighting position of the situation..!
Dec-17-04  Nickisimo: Very strange game...although Tal rarely did anything quietly on a chessboard. The pawn doubling in the opening is alright I suppose, but the destruction of Black's kingside pawns really made it happen. I was impressed with 21. Qc1, since 21. Qg5+?? Ng6, and then White has to worry about ...Qxb1+(leading to back-rank mate), and even if he could get away with Bxg6, after ...fxg6, White has absolutely nothing to show for his two pieces.
Dec-17-04  Nickisimo: <Cyphelium>, yes after 20. exf6, Black can do little to stop White's attack on the open g and h files.
Dec-17-04  panigma: Let's ask LifeMasterAJ if he thinks Tal's play is sound.
Dec-17-04  panigma: Why are some openings named for black's choice of defense and others for white's choice of offense? What is the criteria?
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