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White Rook Youth Club vs Mikhail Tal
"Child's Play" (game of the day Aug-11-2008)
Pionerskaya Pravda Readers - Tal (1970) (correspondence), corr
Italian Game: Two Knights Defense. Traxler Counterattack Knight sac line (C57)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Sep-18-05  fgh: Bizarre final position :-)
Nov-06-05  Central Control: I think 9. NxRh8 would be an improvement for White here.
Nov-06-05  Central Control: Perhaps Black could counter with 9... d5 and 10... Bh3, I don't know very complicated.
Dec-23-05  Lord Osiris: what about 13...Rxf7+? this leaves the rook team to take back with Bxf7 or white is in serious trouble. following this could come:

14...Qf3+ 15.Qf2, Qxf2, 16.Kxf2, Kxf7 17.Nc1(to prevent Nxb3 where white gets a rook.), Kg8 and black is clearly better.

sometimes its better to play solidly than aggressively. i think this was one of those times.

PS. btw if anyone knows where Tal missed mate, i cant find it on here and would appreciate some light shed on the situation. ty.

Dec-23-05  Lord Osiris: nevermind about the question, i looked on kibitz page 1 and found the answer.
Dec-23-05  dakgootje: would make a lovely GOTD...
Oct-06-06  Manic: According to Tim Krabbe's diary (item 143 at 26...Ng3+ wasn't the end of the game. The game apparently continued 27.Kh6?? Nf4+?? and then a draw was agreed. 27.Kh6?? loses to 27...Rg6+! 28.Kxh7 Ne4!, but Tal missed it.
Oct-10-06  Titicamara: Wow what a howler by Tal! I bet he is losing sleep for this.
Oct-10-06  Maatalkko: <Titicamara> That would be a really bad blunder then! Tal has been dead for 15 years!
Aug-04-07  ice lemon tea: <ArturoRivera: Its just a polite draw, just like the one i would do if i were champion and played against kids, they probably remembered all their life the day the day the drawed against Mikhail Tal, i would.>

yup, just like muhammad ali pretending to be knocked down when he played an "exhibition match" against a kid when he was in india.

Aug-11-08  RookFile: Just another boring positional battle from Tal.


Aug-11-08  whatthefat: It really seems peculiar that mate was missed given it was a correspondence game.
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  Once: Here is the missed mate, in all its glory ...

26... Nf4+ 27. Kh6 Rg6+ 28. Kxh7 Rg7+ 29. Kh6 Kg8 30. Rg2 Rxg2 31. Nc3 Rg6#

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Aug-11-08  vonKrolock: 16...<♘e2+> maybe the white team missed now the possibility 17.♕xe2!? ♕xe2 18.♗b3 - in the resulting position, white would fight with ♗♗+♘♘ vs the black ♕... black had, of course, some promising moves - for instance (a)18...♖d8!? (with idea of ♖d4 etc), and if 19.♘c3, then 19...♕g4+ followed by 20.♖d6 etc; or even (b) 18...♖xf7 19.♗xf7+ ♔xf7 with idea of activating soon the ♖a8 - and with a perpetual check at hand for the moment
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  kevin86: I guess the white Q-side pieces were invited to this game,but lost the invitations in the mail-lol

It looks like Tal tried his sacrifice game on a group of kids and got burned-at least he salvaged the draw.

<once> If 26...♘f4+ white replies with 27 ♔h4. Black can force a perpetual,but the mate is not there.

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  playground player: Why did Frank Marshall and others call this opening "the Wilkes-Barre attack?"
Aug-11-08  DarthStapler: Because it was studied by a chess club in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
Aug-11-08  whiteshark: When Tal played 5...Bxf2+ a lot of Young Pioneers were dissatisfied, suspecting that Tal wanted to lose on purpose to them. :D
Aug-11-08  aussiedave: <kevin86>"If 26...Nf4+ white replies with 27 Kh4. Black can force a perpetual,but the mate is not there."

Are you sure? What if Black plays 27...h5? Can White stop the mate on g4?

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  kevin86: <aussiedave> You are correct...
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  Once: <aussiedave> is spot on ...

26. ... Nf4+ 27. Kh4 h5 28. Rg2 Rxg2 29. any Rg4#

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Rook and knight make a powerful attacking force, but they usually need another piece (friend or foe) to snare a king. In the first line I gave, black needs his king to guard h7. In the second line, we need a black pawn on h5 to support a rook on g4.

The only exception to this is when the king is in the corner, when knight and rook can mate without any other assistance.

Dec-09-09  MagisterMusicae: La jugada 22. ♖h2? permite que las negras pasen a tener la ventaja. Puede que 22. ♖h3 fuera la mejor continuación para las blancas, y la partida podría continuar asi: [22. Rh3]

1) 22... ♘f4+ 23. ♔g4 ♘xh3 24. ♕d5+ y las blancas estan mejor

2) 22... ♕g2 23. ♔h4 ♕f2+ 24. ♖g3 con ventaja de las blancas.

Jan-23-11  20MovesAhead: not even a genius could see that one
Jan-23-11  notyetagm:
Jan-25-22  rwbean: A comedy of errors, really bad for a correspondence game.

Either 9. hxg3 or 9. ♘xh8 ♘d4 draws

Any of 10... d5, ♖f8, d6, or O-O draws

11. ♘c3 draws, only move, other moves leave White losing ... 11. ♕h5? played

11... d5 winning, only move, played

12... ♘b4 winning, only move, other moves leave Black losing ... 12... ♘d4? played

13. ♘c3 winning, 13. ♕h4 better, other moves leave White losing ... 13. ♕h2? played

13... ♕g6 winning, 13... ♕xh2 better, other moves leave White better -- 13... ♕g4? played

14. ♕h5 or ♖g1 better ... 14. ♕h4 even, 14. ♕g2 White slightly worse ... 14. ♕xe5+?? is terrible, losing

15... ♘xe6! 16. any then ♔ or ♖xf7 winning ... instead Black played 15... ♕f3+?? which only draws

18... ♖xf7 drawing ... game move 18... ♕f3+?? loses

20. ♔g5 or ♔g4 win clearly

21. d4 ♔f8 22. ♖h3 White advantage or 21. d3 equal

22. ♕d5+ or ♖h3 draw, all other moves lose... 22. ♖h2?? played

26... ♘f4+ mating

27. ♔h4 drawing

27... ♖g6+ mating

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