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Richard Teichmann vs NN
Casual game (1914), Berlin GER
Scandinavian Defense: Ilundain Variation (000)  ·  1-0

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Apr-10-23  Brenin: 12 Qxb8+ Rxb8 13 Bxb5 mate.
Apr-10-23  Brenin: ... and likewise if 12 ... Kd7.
Apr-10-23  Mayankk: White's Bishops are criss-crossing Black King. And that often means mate if potential defenders are eliminated.

So we eliminate the b8 Knight defender by 12 Qxb8+ Rxb8. And deliver mate by 13 Bxb5#. Simple and effective.

Apr-10-23  Mayankk: Black instinctively captured the offered White Knight at 11 Nb5 by 11 ... cxb5. And then fell victim to an elegant Queen sac.

If it had played the defensive 11 ... Na6 instead, its position seems to hold together much better.

Apr-10-23  King.Arthur.Brazil: I love Mondays: 12. Qxb8+ Rxb8 13. Bxb5#
Apr-10-23  jrredfield: Late to the party, but I saw the mate in 2 with 12 Qxb8+. If Black doesn't accept the Q sac with 12 ... Kd7, 13 Bxb5+ still mates. Black blew it immediately with 11 ... cxb5?? when 11 ... Nf5! would have been far better.

11 ... Nf5 12 Qg4 cxb5 13 Bxb5+ Nc6 14 Bd2 Be7 15 c3 Nd6 16 Qxg6 and Black has a commanding lead.

Apr-10-23
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Amazingly, the Ilundain (3...Qd8) fares well in the DB. Truly amazing. 4...Bg4, however, does not. Unamazing. Truly unamazing.
Apr-10-23
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  agb2002: White has a bishop for both knights.

Black threatens bxc4.

The knight on b8 can block the check after 12.Bxb5+. Hence, 12.Qxb8+ Rxb8 (or 12... Kd7) 13.Bxb5#.

Apr-10-23  mel gibson: The good old Monday Queen sac.
Apr-10-23  takebackok: No think Monday
Apr-10-23
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  HeMateMe: NN was distracted by WWI breaking out?
Apr-10-23
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  chrisowen: I day question Qxb8+ arrive its hoh go abridge its lit awooga job Qxb8+ fog;
Apr-10-23
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  takchess: Nice to check in on an easier day. First saw the check and then saw the N can block. QXN removal of the blocker .
Apr-10-23  Brenin: Isn't 11 Nb5 in fact a blunder? Black has 11 ... Bb4+, creating an escape square f8 for his K, followed by 12 ... Nf5 and 13 ... cxb5, all giving him a slight advantage. 11 Ne4 or Qc7 look stronger for White.
Apr-10-23  johnnydeep: Bloody heck. I saw all the game plies, but failed to realize that the final 13.Bxb5 move was mate, and so kept looking for a better line.
Apr-10-23
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  fredthebear: "Without error, there can be no brilliancy." - Emanuel Lasker
Apr-10-23  Chesschronicle22: fred,you have been changing avatars at least 5 times this year!
Apr-10-23
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  perfidious: Yeah, <fredthefrontrunner> hurriedly dumped his Houston avatar after they got the bum's rush in the NCAAs.
Apr-10-23  Stanco: I almost went for 1.Bb5 Nd7 2.Qc7 Bb4 3.c3 0-0 4.Bxd7 but given it's Monday's I did give it another check and spot 1.Qxb8 and 2.Bxb5# eventually
Apr-10-23  TheaN: <12.Qxb8+ with 13.Bxb5#> easy as Monday.
Apr-10-23
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  FSR: Very unusual queen sac ("removing the interposer," one might say) to force mate.
Apr-10-23
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  FSR: <Brenin: Isn't 11 Nb5 in fact a blunder? Black has 11 ... Bb4+, creating an escape square f8 for his K, followed by 12 ... Nf5 and 13 ... cxb5, all giving him a slight advantage. 11 Ne4 or Qc7 look stronger for White.>

Yeah, Stockfish 9, analyzing the game for CG, gives "11...Nf5 12.Qc7 Bb4+ 13.Nc3 Nd7 14.Bd2 Qxg2 15.O-O-O ⩱ -1.32 (21 ply)." Richard the Fifth was probably expecting NN to live down to his reputation. NN didn't disappoint.

Apr-10-23  TheaN: <Brenin: Isn't 11 Nb5 in fact a blunder?>

11....Bb4+ works, so does 11....Nf5 immediately. In fact, the latter might have been even more embarrassing after 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13.Qf4 Bd6 -+ and Black's entirely solid and winning Nc7, besides the point White's already Ra1 down. Teichmann had to complicate though, due to the odds, so I kind of get the attempt.

Apr-10-23  Brenin: <FSR, TheaN>: Yes, I think we can assume that Richard V would not have risked 11 Nb5 against a more competent opponent.
Apr-12-23
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  HeMateMe: R.I.P. Phony Benoni. Nice Guy. Just giving a well deserved shout out.
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