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Sijbolt Jan Noorda vs Jan Timman
NED-ch Juniors (1964), Rotterdam NED, rd 7, Apr-03
French Defense: Advance Variation. Milner-Barry Gambit (C02)  ·  1-0



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Sep-12-04  Rowson: What the...
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: Been there, done that.
Sep-12-04  iron maiden: A future Candidates' finalist at age thirteen. Humble beginnings, indeed.
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  tpstar: Well, after 9 ... Nxe5 Black has the superior endgame. Oh wait ...
Nov-29-04  buscher07: Why??
Dec-17-04  aw1988: OW... I winced at this :(
Jan-19-05  Abaduba: I know that Timman likes to experiment with lots of different openings, but this particular gambit may be a tad bit unsound. :-)
Mar-29-05  THE pawn: Now what in the world was that?
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  Ron: That must be some pretty good hashish in Rotterdam.
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  Benzol: Did he pick up the wrong piece to capture with?


Apr-06-05  peanut: <Ron: That must be some pretty good hashish in Rotterdam.> LOL!
Oct-05-05  CeeFoR: I could see this happening on a computer, but...
Oct-06-05  DutchDunce: Aw, give him a break, he was just a kid. Of course, I'm way older than he was here, and I still do things like this. Often.
Feb-06-06  I3illieJoe: <Ron: That must be some pretty good hashish in Rotterdam.>


Jul-16-07  Cactus: Team World's gonna have an easy time with him!
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  ganstaman: <Cactus: Team World's gonna have an easy time with him!>

Team World's not playing him. Timmerman and Timman are unfortunately different people.

Aug-15-07  PAWNTOEFOUR: i don't feel so bad now!
Aug-15-07  Peter Johnson Ng: Black should take the pawn with the Knight instead of the Queen. What a blunder and cause the game. You can't blame Timmerman, he was only 13 then.
Aug-15-07  Marvol: <Peter Johnson Ng: Black should take the pawn with the Knight instead of the Queen. What a blunder and cause the game. You can't blame <Timmerman>, he was only 13 then.>

Timman. Jan Timman

Timmerman is another bloke: Gert Jan Timmerman

Oct-02-07  centercounter: Bad transposition... Nxd4 is the Milner-Barry Gambit after 9. Nxd4 Qxd4 10. Nc3 a6!. It is believed that Black will face some issues but should hold his extra Pawn and eventually win with "theoretically best" play.

9. ... Qxd4 simply was an error where Timman obviously thought he already had taken at d4 with the Knight. I've done that recently. It's just a mixup of move order. Happens often with deep variations and book lines. Most often harmless, sometimes catastrophic and, more important, funny.

I even had a game where I lost a piece because I moved a Knight for check, intending to move the same Knight from its original square to give mate the next move. When I realized the Knight wasn't where it had been :P , I had both that Knight and another piece hanging. I won the game, although I 100% deserved not only to lose, but to be fined for such play.

My opponent wrote the bulletin for the tournament and described my facial expression as he made the ONLY LEGAL RESPONSE to my check. He also very kindly invited me to his wife's traditional U.S. Open birthday party that year. You probably already know who I am talking about, but I won't embarrass him by giving his name.

Sep-07-09  WhiteRook48: this proves a huge prodigy
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  PawnSac: < Ron: That must be some pretty good hashish in Rotterdam. >

He obviously didn't want to waste time finishing this game. Was in a hurry to get back to the BONG.

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