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Jan Timman vs Lev Polugaevsky
2nd AVRO (1973), Hilversum NED, rd 5, Jun-17
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B96)  ·  1-0



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Sep-13-05  Iron Dragon: I thought today's was easier than Monday's. Easily.
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  kevin86: Black self-trapped his queen on the a-file;it only took a pair of parana-type knights to eat her up.
Sep-13-05  iron maiden: Speaking of queen traps, here's a good one for <patzer2>'s collection. Bogoljubov vs Reti, 1919
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  patzer2: <Sargon> <I wonder which of 14. ..Qb8, Qd7, or Qc5 is most reasonable? Or, should Black have just simplified with 14. ..Nxd5 or 14. ..Bxd5?>

Perhaps Fritz 8 can help.

Timman Jan H (NED) - L Polugaevsky
2kr1b1r/1bq2pp1/p2ppn1p/1p1N4/3NPP2/3B3Q/PPP3PP/2KRR3 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8 (@ 18 depth & 1148kN/s):

1. (-0.50): 14...Nxd5 15.exd5 Bxd5 16.a4 g6 17.axb5 axb5 18.Be4 Bxe4 19.Rxe4 d5 20.Rxe6 fxe6 21.Nxe6 Qc6

2. ± (0.84): 14...Qc5 15.Nb3 Qa7 16.Nxf6 gxf6 17.Kb1 d5 18.f5 e5 19.exd5 Bxd5 20.Qh4 Be7 21.Be4

3. ± (1.00): 14...Qb8 15.Nxf6 gxf6 16.Nxe6 fxe6 17.Qxe6+ Rd7 18.e5 Kc7 19.Bf5 Qd8 20.Re3 Rg7 21.exf6

4. (1.78): 14...Bxd5 15.exd5 Kb7 16.dxe6 d5 17.exf7 Qxf4+ 18.Qe3 Qxh2 19.Ne6 Rc8 20.Qd4 Qd6 21.Kb1

Clearly, 14...Nxd5 is Black's best choice.

Sep-13-05  YouRang: <patzer2,Sargon> <Clearly, 14...Nxd5 is Black's best choice. > In that case, I'm happy that I picked 14...Nxd5 is my first choice! (I should confess that my 2nd choice was 14...Bxd5, which was the worst of the rest). The only reason I favored Nxd5 was that it left the bishop on d5, where it seemed to exert more influence than the knight would have.
Sep-13-05  gomickeylol: Not bad for a Tuesday puzzle, no?
Sep-13-05  Castle In The Sky: I missed this one, I was looking for a knight sac combination.
Sep-13-05  Halldor: After having wasted a bit of time for a possible 15.Nxe6, I began thinking about hunting the black Queen. First I thought for a moment that Nb3 needed some preparation, but it's simple and beautiful: 15.Nb3! Qxa2 (or Qa4) and 16.Nc3 and the Queen is trapped. (Wish I had got such a position when I played against Polugaevsky in a simul many years ago, but that's another story...)
Sep-13-05  metallurgist: you vs yourself: <Resignation Trap: In this game, 15...Qa5?? is probably his worst. > The only problem is he never played it in this game!

Is the data base wrong?

Sep-13-05  you vs yourself: <metallurgist> Sorry for misleading you. The score above shows 14...Qa5?? was played not <15...Qa5??>. So, 15...Qa5 is technically illegal:)
Sep-13-05  Snow Man: ♕ versus ♖, ♗, ♙ is a technical win for the owner of the queen?
Sep-13-05  fgh: Very easy, as yesterday.
Sep-13-05  GiuocoPianoMan: So often the solution to a chess puzzle involves giving check- this puzzle is a great change of pace!
Sep-13-05  filipecea: <ThomYorke> <CONCLUSION Everything that might happen in our real life might happen in chess. So, pay attention and take care of your territory.>

LOL. How about the guys who loves to let their queens have some early pleasures in a scandinavian "showtime"? A voyeur's fetiche?

Sep-13-05  DonMac: Very simple yet tough to see.
Sep-13-05  BishopofBlunder: Strangely enough, I probably would have seen this OTB, as I am a materialistic player by nature, and often look to trap the opponents Queen and Rooks. However, when solving puzzles I tend to focus more on mating combinations and traps. So I missed it. I guess I need to approach both real games and puzzles with more of an open mind.

Very nice problem, <>!

Sep-14-05  RookFile: So Polugaevsky was the #2 player in
the world in 1974, or thereabouts,
according to chessmetrics. What a laugh and a half.
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  kevin86: Queen vs rook,bishop,and pawn is almost always a draw,although the queen is favored by a nose. With other pieces on both side,it become more of a coin flip.
Sep-14-05  RookFile: Like everything, it depends on the
position. You can draw with as little
as a rook and pawn against the queen.

For example, suppose black has pawn
on g7, King on g8, Rook on f6. You
can put the white queen and king anywhere you want, and it doesn't change the fact that black merrily moves his rook between h6 and f6 all day, keeping white blocked out.

Dec-15-05  PaulLovric: and this was the Sicilian, Najdorf (B96) Polugaevsky variation too
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  fm avari viraf: It is a great surprise for everyone that Lev got his Queen trapped before the battle could really hot up.
Dec-14-09  WhiteRook48: the queen is trapped tonight
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  piltdown man: Yowch!
Mar-18-12  lost in space:

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What is wrong with 14. Nxd5 15. exd5 Bxd5

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Seems that Black is fine?!

In any case it is better than Qa5 but also better than

14. Bxd5?! exd5 15. Nxd5 16. Nxe6 fxe6 17. Qxe6+ Kb8 18. Qxd5

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  Penguincw: At this point, the best move would probably be 17...Qxe1 18.Rxe1 Nxd5 19.exd5 Bxd5. At this point, black is still loss, but maybe chances for a save (♔♕♘ vs. ♔♖♗♙♙).

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♔♕♘ vs. ♔♖♗♙♙

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